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Type in Morse code by repeatedly slamming your laptop shut

efitz
27 replies
21h30m

Cryptonomicon by Neil Stephenson had a subplot where a main character used morse code on his keyboard, or some other layered encoding on top of the keyboard, to write software and communicate surreptitiously even while his screen was being recorded.

wsintra2022
23 replies
19h14m

Came across that book just recently in one of those free book libraries, tell me, was it a good read?

groby_b
10 replies
16h45m

Yes, it's an amazing book. But skip the last 20 pages, they're deeply unsatisfying writing.

roughly
9 replies
15h13m

The Neal Stephenson experience.

That, and the 20-page grad-level dissertation on some esoteric subject randomly in the middle of the book.

The man’s truly one of the best out there, and I’m convinced a more aggressive editor would ruin him, but it wouldn’t be a Stephenson without some real head scratching authorial decisions.

imp0cat
4 replies
14h19m

So true about the endings! And he's actually aware of it.

    Well, I'm reasonably happy with all of my endings, but I know that some people feel differently. But as you've noticed, they're different, it's not always the same thing. All I can say is different books end in different ways, and different people have different tastes in what they want to see. I'm well aware that there are certain people frustrated with the endings of some of my books. But I also think that it's one of these things where people's preconceived ideas sometimes drive the way they perceive things. ...

    So I think that my experience is that once you've written a book with a controversial ending and that meme gets going of Stephenson can't write endings, then that gets slapped on to everything you do, no matter how elaborate the ending is. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnq-2BJwatE&t=654s

nocoiner
3 replies
10h43m

It’s not a meme, the man really can’t write an ending to save his life. But generally the pages other than the last ~25 make it totally worth it (other than that post-death MMORPG book, that one was terrible and just a slog the whole way through).

digging
1 replies
1h20m

Have you read Termination Shock, and if so, how do you feel it stacks up? It was, regrettably, my first (and still only) Stephenson book, and I thought it was really quite bad in all the ways that matter to me. (The action was good, but I don't read sci-fi for the action.) But I see so much love for him in hacker circles online that I wave on whether or not I should give his more famous works some attention.

roughly
0 replies
48m

Termination shock wasn’t great, no - Kim Stanley Robinson’s Ministry for the Future was a much better work in that vein. I think Cryptonomicon is very good, I really liked Seveneves, Anathem is fantastic, and I liked REAMDE as well, as far as his latter day works go. Snow Crash and The Diamond Age are what made him famous and are both Very good, if a bit dated now.

roughly
0 replies
3h5m

other than that post-death MMORPG book, that one was terrible and just a slog the whole way through

Literally everything about that book except the main plot was fantastic. It read terrifyingly prophetic once he could peel himself away from whatever greek fable bullshit he was on about on the main thread.

tessellated
0 replies
7h42m

Don't forget the cereals!

jgrahamc
0 replies
9h42m

That, and the 20-page grad-level dissertation on some esoteric subject randomly in the middle of the book.

This made me smile because while I enjoyed Seveneves there was an entire interlude discussing swarms of spacecraft cooperating to avoid debris.

divbzero
0 replies
13h53m

I still can’t quite place his digression on monads in The Baroque Cycle.

darby_nine
0 replies
5h46m

Pynchon always managed to integrate this tendency into the narrative much better. Stephenson is still worth it tho.

cynusx
5 replies
19h12m

Cryptonomicon is one of the best reads on the planet, it's famous.

stavros
3 replies
15h34m

Is it now, though? I read it and didn't manage to get into it much, and don't really remember anything from it.

I think it's one of those works of art that were so revolutionary that they started a whole genre, but now they seem badly done and clichéd just because everyone has copied them and iterated on them.

fellerts
1 replies
10h1m

I found it witty and somewhat educational, but man is it long. I read it on the kindle and when I thought that I must be getting close to the end, I had only read 30% of it. It takes some determination to get through.

stavros
0 replies
3h13m

Yeah, it's been a while since I read it, but I did find it to be a slog.

flir
0 replies
4h59m

Some of the tech's a bit long-in-the-tooth (the whole data haven concept), but the genre was already well-established when the book turned up (Gravity's Rainbow (1973) in particular and postmodern literature in general). I, personally, enjoy it.

albrewer
0 replies
3h4m

I got about halfway through and forgot I was in the middle of reading it. The story never really grabbed me. I say this as someone who usually rips through a book a week.

altairprime
1 replies
12h0m

A lot of my guy friends have a crush on a lead character in it (not Elias or Elon, but a similar name?) and praise it extensively. I apparently read it one time and remember nothing about it, so YMMV but if you’re into hacker guys, you’ll apparently love it!

tessellated
0 replies
7h44m

Enoch Root?

themadturk
0 replies
16h58m

It is a story of technology and history. It grew out of the author's interest in the way we communicate, and also out of his interest in WWII legends. It's huge, and hugely readable. It's a very good read if the intersection of those things interest you.

tessellated
0 replies
7h54m

I have read and can recommend everything by the author between and not including 'The Big U' and 'REAMDE'.

REAMDE disappointed me so much, that I haven't touched his later novels.

'Snow Crash' reads like a graphic novel, 'Anathem' is just unique and maybe in my fav top 10 (not considering 'A Canticle for Leibowitz' :), 'Cryptonomicon' + 'The Baroque Cycle' are slow but very rewarding.

'The Diamond Age', what can I say, do yourself a favour and start reading it now.

Sure I forgot one or two, it's been a long time.

paranoidrobot
0 replies
14h47m

I've read it probably a dozen times or more. I'm actually mid-way through it again after not having read it for a year or two.

I think it's still a great story. The technology is definitely dated.

There is also some language that will offend or make some people uncomfortable (Racial slurs epithets, among them).

SamBam
0 replies
17h9m

If you're a computer nerd, yes, definitely.

There are plenty of people I wouldn't recommend it to, though.

Crespyl
1 replies
18h16m

Specifically, IIRC, the character used the "Scroll Lock" LED to blink out some coordinates in Morse, to avoid the location being displayed on-screen and thus captured by Van Eck phreaking[0].

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Eck_phreaking

divbzero
0 replies
13h55m

… and, for input, tapped out Morse code on the space bar while viewing man pages so it looked like the character was just paging through documentation.

linsomniac
0 replies
21h29m

Jinx

linsomniac
22 replies
21h30m

This reminds me of that section in the book Cryptonomicon, where our hero is programming on a laptop that he knows is being spied upon using Tempest and probably more, and is using clandestine input via morse code on the shift (?) key. I really enjoyed that book.

rrjjww
9 replies
17h17m

At risk of derailing the conversation, I finished Cryptonomicon earlier this year and really enjoyed it. Any recommendations for similar books?

brk
3 replies
17h9m

Snowcrash? REAMDE was also good.

themadturk
1 replies
16h58m

So nice to find someone else who enjoyed REAMDE.

james_marks
0 replies
13h13m

My favorite of his, and I’ve read most of them.

jaggederest
0 replies
16h44m

The Diamond Age: Or, A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer is the sequel to Snow Crash, and is excellent and in many ways more relevant and subversive now, given that more or less Snow Crash has passed into retrofuturism as all the things kind of happened, like Jules Verne.

roughly
2 replies
15h10m

If you can get past the absolute slog of a beginning, Anathem is amazing.

xarope
0 replies
14h29m

yes, give it a try and try to get past the first few chapters. The first time I read it, the world building almost put me to sleep. Somehow I decided to give it another try on a long flight, and this time I grok'd the world building, and thoroughly enjoyed it all the way through to the end.

0xEF
0 replies
9h19m

Anthem is my favorite Stephenson book, by far. My copy is the only book I own with a broken binding because I've read it too many times. I don't think that one gets enough attention, especially from a world building and technical perspective.

linsomniac
0 replies
6h23m

I thought Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir had a similar "feel", though it's more future-looking rather than past looking.

Daemon and Freedom(tm) by Daniel Suarez is another book (printed as two books, because reasons) that is ~1K pages but I've read 3 times (like Cryptonomicon).

Others in this thread have recommended The Baroque Cycle, but I just couldn't get into it. Ditto with Anathem. Maybe I should give them another try. However, I do love Diamond Age and Snowcrash.

eru
0 replies
16h32m

The Baroque Cycle by the same author.

I didn't like Snowcrash nearly as much.

His Diamond Age is pretty good, too.

mulmen
7 replies
21h2m

on the shift (?) key.

Disabling Windows accessibility features is an indication of anti-social behavior.

xp84
4 replies
20h29m

? even on one's own computer? I don't follow

It would follow from your statement that not disabling the screen lock is also anti-social.

omoikane
2 replies
19h40m

Windows has a "sticky keys" accessibility feature that is enabled by pressing "shift" many times. I believe it's intended for people who have a hard time holding multiple keys at the same time.

It's something that would be easy to trigger accidentally if you are using the shift keys to play pinball or type morse code.

pests
0 replies
18h15m

Any gamer who maps shift to something discovers this very quickly

grvbck
0 replies
18h30m

Same on MacOS, press shift 5x to activate.

taneq
0 replies
16h52m

Was that not tongue-in-cheek?

The sticky-keys popup used to be a fun way to get past the screen lock used at computer shops etc. since it took focus off the screen lock window, which then let you use other hot keys. :D

samatman
1 replies
18h49m

Laptops are not generally social objects. The notion makes me a bit nauseous actually.

eru
0 replies
16h31m

Not more nauseous than any other shared keyboard, I assume?

AcerbicZero
1 replies
21h25m

Welp, I know what I'm reading on my next flight :)

WD-42
0 replies
19h16m

You won't regret it, classic book.

anfractuosity
0 replies
21h10m

I think it was something to do with one of the keyboard keys with an LED if I recall correctly, so possibly caps/numlock.

Edit: seems I'm misremembering, just read - https://www.reddit.com/r/programmerchat/comments/3aknvw/pris... the LED was to output data, but they used another key to tap code

anfractuosity
16 replies
20h59m

Haha. Tangentially - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Send_Me_to_Heaven -

"developed by Carrot Pop which measures the vertical distance that a mobile phone is thrown. Players compete against each other by seeking to throw their phones higher than others, often at the risk of damaging their phones."

rg2004
4 replies
20h18m

Why would apple ban this? Seems like a great way to increase sales!

karolist
2 replies
19h45m

applecare abuse

beAbU
1 replies
9h21m

Seems like the solution is right there. "Your claim was denied because we found and app installed on your device that promotes physical abuse."

Cthulhu_
0 replies
4h44m

Do you mean a browser with a HN comment section open?

alexdbird
0 replies
9h31m

The sensor was only needed to park spinning disks when the laptop was in free fall. Without the spinning disks they no longer fitted the sensor.

extraduder_ire
3 replies
16h37m

Also: Smackbook - https://stevenbock.me/Smackbook-Yosemite/ (more modern recreation or the original)

A way to switch virtual desktops on macbooks with a hard drive by slapping them on the side.

mintplant
0 replies
16h13m

NOTE: This script will not work with any Macbooks shipped with SSDs. This includes the Retina Macbook Pro and recent Macbook Air models.

"This update broke my workflow! Just add an option to reenable HDD smacking."

https://xkcd.com/1172

OuterVale
3 replies
16h43m

My first phone was a RugGear RG930. If you think Nokia’s 3310 was built like a brick, then this thing may as well have been a rubberised titanium brick.

It was so solid I used to play ‘catch the phone’ with friends, and it ended up face down on concrete more times than I can count, but I don’t think it ever sustained so much as a scratch.

If the RG930 ran Android, I reckon I could go for the high score.

prmoustache
0 replies
8h19m

I had a rugged android phone from Blackview that was deemed to survive terrible stuff...I managed to drop it into the ocean.

Bought another one for my significant other after changing the screen of her samsung smartphone 3 times. She has used it for more than a year, it slipped from her jacket once from my motorbike. Someone found it 1h later in the middle of a roundabout face down with tire marks on the case. He saw it only because I was calling it and it has some notification lights at the back. Not a single scratch on the screen! Her only complaints is the quality of the photos taken with the camera.

I wish they were supported by alternative roms like lineageos or /e/os.

mbonnet
0 replies
8m

When I lived in Sierra Leone circa 2012, a lot of expats had phones like this. Ruggedized, could handle anything - dust, falling into a silty river, anything. Many a game of catch were played with them.

Cthulhu_
0 replies
4h53m

A colleague showed me their Caterpillar-branded phone, it was proper ruggedized like you see in construction radios and the like, big bumpers, plastic screen, he casually yote it onto the floor to demonstrate. Mainly so he can pass it to his kids if they're bored.

The current generation Cat branded phones look pretty regular, but are probably still much more rugged than most phones.

lynx23
1 replies
12h37m

Postmodern decadence. Funny, yes. But more akin to slaves fighting in an arena. Yes, I know, machines have no feelings (yet), but it still seems excessive.

TeMPOraL
0 replies
11h59m

On the contrary, this is how humanity advances - one "hold my beer and watch this" moment at a time.

epiccoleman
0 replies
14h24m

I had some smartphone, I think a Motorola, with a plastic screen instead of glass. Never shattered on me, but took scratches very easily. I think it may have died when it was dropped in a toilet? IDK, been a while, I think it was before nearly universal IPS waterproofing on phones.

Bluestein
10 replies
22h32m

All we need now is the "slam head on keyboard" version :)

ToucanLoucan
9 replies
22h20m

Should be pretty straight forward to modify the code, just look for key presses of R, T, Y, U, D, F, G, H, J, V, B, and N.

madcaptenor
8 replies
22h2m

You're assuming I have good aim.

Bluestein
7 replies
21h50m

And/or an easily targetable forehead :)

thih9
6 replies
20h24m

I think this is doable; and practice makes perfect.

I can enter passcode on my apple watch with my nose. It’s the smaller apple watch model. Nose is quite big.

ToucanLoucan
5 replies
19h28m

I do this to my watch and phone, most often when cuddling the wife because one of my arms will doubtlessly be unavailable.

1123581321
2 replies
15h3m

Nipples work too. They also register as valid Touch ID prints.

perilunar
1 replies
13h36m

The original touch interface.

Bluestein
0 replies
34m

Swear. Gonna retire to the English countryside one day and just dump everything and open a pub:

"The Nipple & Clit"

thih9
0 replies
9h40m

Still counts as FaceID.

Bluestein
0 replies
18h46m

The nose as a pointing device ...

Gotta go find me a scientific study on that :)

in-tension
7 replies
21h55m

Fantastic.

Did anyone else have nostalgia for the Thinkpad track point?

khedoros1
2 replies
21h52m

Better, I have one right in front of me!

in-tension
1 replies
17h39m

Do they still make them or do you have an old one?

floam
1 replies
21h15m

The clit?

utensil4778
0 replies
20h37m

The Thinkpad TrackPoint mouse has over 20,000 nerve endings

ofalkaed
0 replies
21h39m

Did you use the trackpoint for navigating an onscreen keyboard or something? Trackpoint gestures for the the alphabet?

PennRobotics
0 replies
16h39m

No.

I recently had a ThinkPad Z13 for over a year. I tried earnestly using the TrackPoint on multiple occasions. It had inconsistent pressure pickup, bad haptics, and poor button integration.

I think I had a different opinion 25+ years ago, but that was an era where the laptop might ONLY have a TrackPoint, and its design was intentional---not an afterthought like the current gen.

In fact, one of the main selling points (reducing wrist strain) doesn't apply to the Z13, because the cold, hard, right-angled aluminum edge of the case digs into your wrists the longer you keep them in the same position.

josefritzishere
6 replies
4d1h

This is a heartbreaking work of staggering genius.

jvanderbot
3 replies
23h6m

Beautiful wording.

So, I had to see where it was from, if anywhere else (Amazon.com):

     A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius is the moving memoir of a college senior who, in the space of five weeks, loses both of his parents to cancer and inherits his eight-year-old brother. This exhilarating debut that manages to be simultaneously hilarious and wildly inventive as well as a deeply heartfelt story of the love that holds a family together.

nocoiner
1 replies
10h34m

You are a liberal arts major at an American university in the first half of the first decade of this century. At every house party you attend, you see a copy of this book on every coffee table. You are aware that it is critically acclaimed and you participate in numerous conversations regarding its merits (or lack thereof). You have never read the book. You regret nothing.

xg15
0 replies
1h33m

My suspicion is, the same would work with Gödel, Escher, Bach in Silicon Valley circles.

"It's such a profound book with incredibly deep, life-changing insights about the hidden connections and symmetries of the universe. I really should read it some time."

oaktowner
0 replies
22h6m

A wonderful, wonderful read. An audacious title, but the book absolutely makes good on it.

xg15
0 replies
22h37m

well it will break something alright

satisfice
0 replies
21h57m

I have no better comment and I must scream.

tamimio
4 replies
18h51m

Need one for the car brakes, so I can communicate road rage with it.

kibwen
2 replies
16h42m

I use the horn for this. For example, if someone cuts in front of me, I use Morse code to communicate the phrase "I am attempting to exercise empathy by putting myself in your shoes, and to be maximally charitable I am assuming that you're probably in a hurry, quite likely for a very good reason, such as perhaps your wife is going into labor, or you're running late for a big meeting, or your father in on his deathbed and you need to say goodbye to him for the last time, so I don't begrudge you for cutting me off, quite the contrary in fact, I wish you the best on your journey through life."

They then often use their horn to communicate something back to me, but sadly I'm not yet good enough at decoding Morse code to understand what they're trying to say.

smcnally
1 replies
16h9m

Meta data like tone, timbre, amplitude also communicate intent and meaning beyond ‘dah’s and ‘dit’s.

Cthulhu_
0 replies
4h3m

I often wish for a way to communicate to other drivers via something that's a bit more clear than horn or blinking lights. Like one of those LED text things to say "oi mate your lights are off" or something like that.

wingmanjd
0 replies
15h10m

Wasn't there a Cold War era communication method accomplished via a car with squeaky brakes? I think it was nicknamed "the duck"?

shreddit
4 replies
22h41m

It even works offline, just slam harder for “over the air” transmission. Has a shorter range though…

th0ma5
1 replies
20h48m

There is a video of a guy shouting into a can which was changing the pressure of a piezo ... I think they picked it up in the shack but didn't mess with it much more. Completely passive I think.

aspyct
0 replies
22h2m

Shorter range and shorter lifespan too :D

Bluestein
0 replies
22h31m

(Talk about "air gapped", eh?

Dwedit
4 replies
22h23m

This is how you destroy your hinge.

yipbub
0 replies
6h46m

Not the Thinkpad in the video though

skeaker
0 replies
18h58m

Yes, it's a shame that laptop manufacturers fail to account for the critical need of sending Morse code.

autoexec
0 replies
19h11m

Yeah. build quality these days makes this really risky.

KWxIUElW8Xt0tD9
0 replies
21h41m

does indeed seem rather unhinged

LorenDB
3 replies
4d2h

RIP that person's laptop hinge. With use, hinges loosen, and I can't imagine that sort of stress would slow the process.

jerf
0 replies
22h30m

I like to imagine that the animated gif featured at the top is in fact in real time, not accelerated, and they have long passed the point where this is an issue.

Perhaps that was even the inspiration.

hagbard_c
0 replies
4d1h

Not to mention the display cable, fortunately you can order new hinges and display cables by slamming the thing shut a few thousand times in the right cadence. This is not just a solution in search of a problem but also a solution to the problems it causes.

amlib
0 replies
20h30m

I think this is just to show off how strong a thinkpad x/t hinge is :)

stainablesteel
2 replies
20h32m

absolutely brilliant solution for if your keyboard breaks and you REALLY need to send an email

xeyownt
0 replies
13h11m

Definitely needed when you must order a new keyboard

thih9
0 replies
20h27m

Also great discoverability. When you need to send that email so badly that you start repeatedly slamming the laptop lid out if frustration, you get presented with this extra input method.

mikeInAlaska
2 replies
18h35m

Surely you can very discretely and ergonomically use this... if you move your lid jussttt above the point where it decides it is closed and then tap.

kmoser
1 replies
14h53m

Yeah, "slam" seems a bit hyperbolic, if not click-baity.

langsoul-com
0 replies
10h54m

Click the link and watch the video in the github read me.

It IS slamming the lid...

dguest
2 replies
23h3m

How was this posted both 2 hours ago and also on the 15th?

I got really confused when someone said something about "monday morning" but all the timestamps read 15th.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF
0 replies
22h57m

https://news.ycombinator.com/pool

There's a "second-chance" pool for posts which didn't get a lot of discussion but the moderators feel deserve more. When it's added to the front page again, the timestamps are updated to make it seem like a fresh post, presumably because people will be more likely to comment.

AnimalMuppet
0 replies
22h59m

I think that happens when it comes in via the second-chance pool.

Sharlin
1 replies
4d1h

This distinctly reminds me of spacebar heating workflow [1].

[1] https://xkcd.com/1172/

alxndr_2000
0 replies
16h30m

I wonder if anyone has ever implemented spacebar heating?

Scoundreller
1 replies
14h43m

On this topic, my Dell laptop detects that it's closed by having 1 (!) magnet in the screen, and a sensor on the case. So when I put my magsafe phone to the right of the touchpad, it thinks I've closed it and logs me out.

My MacBook has 2 magnets in the screen to avoid this issue.

nocoiner
0 replies
10h40m

Seems like they should have put the magnet in the case and the sensor in the screen.

xg15
0 replies
22h36m

Recommended by 9 out of 10 independent laptop repair shops!

sva_
0 replies
2h44m

The ultimate hinge test

surfingdino
0 replies
8h54m

Gloriously pointless, yet frightfully well carried out.

sam_goody
0 replies
21h25m

I really appreciate an old style HN "Hacker" post!

pyinstallwoes
0 replies
15h51m

This is why the universe loves humans.

nullindividual
0 replies
4d2h

Thanks for the Monday morning laugh. They should have used this method of communication in WWII instead of those signal lights! /s

And someone posted the other day that there was no way humans would be creating new works anymore because of AI...

mattigames
0 replies
18h55m

It would be slighly more useful to have something that uses the microphone to detect when you physicially tap the laptop e.g. with your finger, it could be used to keep typing even with your laptop screen down, imagine a spy movie where the baddies close your laptop and put a gun against your head and you have to put your hands in the air, but you use your knee under the table to tap type "shred -vzn 0 /dev/xxx", poof, all data gone.

mal10c
0 replies
18h24m

YES! This project, this is what the internet is for!

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF
0 replies
22h59m

Gotta love the marketing!

Use a battle-tested encoding trusted by pilots, submariners, and amateur radio nerds

Technically accurate, yet entirely missing the point.

langsoul-com
0 replies
10h51m

Wild, laptop would be broken so fast!

Kinda reminds me of the signal language typing, used computer vision for that.

A head hanging Morse code version would be interesting as well. Or perhaps a mobile phone accelerometer Morse code would be fun too.

js8
0 replies
19h24m

I once bought one of those Lenovo something hybrids between touchpad and notebook, horrible design as it turned out. It had a docking type of connection with the keyboard, very sensitive to vibration of the desk. Since the touchpad piece had the CPU, and the keyboard piece had the external connectors, it was practically unusable. If you connected an external storage device, it would randomly disconnect (and possibly lose data) due to vibrations of the table. So yeah.. you could probably tap morse code on the table and have it detected on this device.

iLemming
0 replies
17h35m

Emacs has a built-in command 'morse-region'. I wonder if I can do the reverse - make the laptop flap for a given string? I guess you just need to find a small but powerful enough servo.

fitsumbelay
0 replies
21h1m

love this and author's previous posts + work

egberts1
0 replies
19h42m

How about the #headdesk'ing of Morse code on a touchpad?

dheera
0 replies
20h49m

You could probably get better "framerate" by just hearing the slamming sounds from the microphone instead of querying acpid.

Or using the webcam to look for darkness of the shutting.

bouncycastle
0 replies
18h40m

version 2.0 will ship with the most requested feature: ability to also use the space bar

aussiegeek
0 replies
18h4m

For when you want to spend more on a key than a Begali

TZubiri
0 replies
14h47m

Peak hacker news

0xFEE1DEAD
0 replies
6h38m

Just what I've been looking for