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Diff-pdf: tool to visually compare two PDFs

thibaut_barrere
5 replies
7h1m

I have been using this in a CI pipeline to maintain a business-critical PDF generation (healthcare) app (started circa 2010 I think), here is the RSpec helpers I'm using:

https://gist.github.com/thbar/d1ce2afef68bf6089aeae8d9ddc05d...

The code contains git-stored reference PDFs, and the test suite re-generate them and assert that nothing has changed.

Helped a lot to audit visual changes, or PDF library upgrades!

pmarreck
3 replies
5h28m

could you not just compare the source (or perhaps even the hash) of the PDF and assert on that?

ydant
0 replies
4h0m

I use some custom tools for PDF comparison (visual, textual, and perceptual hash) for my personal records/accounting purposes.

A number of the financial and medical institutions I deal with re-generate PDFs every time you request them, but the content is 99-100% identical. Sometimes just a date changes. So I use a perceptual hash and content comparison to automate detecting truly new documents vs. ones that are only slightly changed.

jabroni_salad
0 replies
4h56m

If the document is a legally required disclosure (like a bank's fee schedule for example) then you need to grade that document directly rather than its source code. PDFs are horrible and there is a lot that can go wrong with making them between writing and publishing.

alexdoesh
0 replies
5h22m

Hashes can change regularly due to metadata. Source checks may also require some filtration or preprocessing before comparison. Visual comparison is the best option here, especially if you have a complex document with multiple third-party components that may change both the hash and source but keep the visual appearance the same.

tylerflick
0 replies
4h8m

Are you using singed digests in the PDFs?

akasakahakada
5 replies
5h53m

Use this to compare university textbook edition 8 and 9 before buying.

ant6n
4 replies
5h42m

Uh how can you compare without buying? Or put another way, why buy if you can compare?

akasakahakada
2 replies
3h58m

libgen exist bro

N0b8ez
1 replies
3h50m

But then why would you need to buy it?

Foobar8568
0 replies
2h35m

Because for textbooks, paper is often superior.

cocodill
0 replies
5h28m

time machine research

asah
4 replies
7h59m

Crazy, I'd have thought that modern multi-modal LLMs can do this, but when I tried Gemini, ChatGPT-4o and Claude they all pooped out:

- Gemini at first only diff'd the text, and then when pushed it identified the items in the images and then hallucinated the differences between the versions. It could not produce an image output.

- Claude only diff'd the text and refused to believe that there images in the PDFs.

- ChatGPT attempted to write and execute python code for this, which errored out.

pmarreck
0 replies
5h25m

I would fully expect an LLM to not get natively good at this but to know how to reach out to another tool in order to get good at this

infecto
0 replies
6h12m

This is definitely not a strength for multi-modal LLM. Multi-modal capabilities are still too flaky especially when looking at a page of a PDF which can have multiple areas of focus.

ertgbnm
0 replies
5h46m

This may be the type of thing that LLMs are currently the worst at. I'm not surprised at all.

ale42
0 replies
5h27m

Visually comparing two PDFs is something a PC can do deterministically without any resource (and energy) intensive LLMs. People will soon use LLMs for things they are not especially good or efficient at, like computing the sum of numbers in an Excel table... (or are they doing it already?).

Levitating
4 replies
8h21m

No screenshots?

Tryk
2 replies
5h19m

Can anyone explain how to interpret that screenshot? It just looks like a very blurry text to me.

ska
0 replies
4h30m

If it was sharp, they would be identical. The “blurriness” is doubling, where the lines are not quite aligned. Red text there show you content that is in one and not the other.

pimlottc
0 replies
5h14m

It's showing you both PDFs overlaid on each other. The main window looks blurry because the main text has shifted vertically slightly. The regions that have changes are highlighted in the thumbnails on the left.

I agree it's not the best initial example to demonstrate the tool, but it does show how it can be used to detect even minor spacing changes.

smartmic
3 replies
5h51m

I like this tool better: https://www.qtrac.eu/diffpdf.html

It shows the differences in the GUI side-by-side instead of overlayed.

Tryk
1 replies
5h20m

From the github:

Another option is to compare the two files visually in a simple GUI, using the --view argument:

$ diff-pdf --view a.pdf b.pdf

This opens a window that lets you view the files' pages and zoom in on details. It is also possible to shift the two pages relatively to each other using Ctrl-arrows (Cmd-arrows on MacOS). This is useful for identifying translation-only differences.

yencabulator
0 replies
40m

Shifting the offset is very far from the experience of a side-by-side diff, and more useful for nudging the images to align them.

invalidlogin
0 replies
5h38m

I use BeyondCompare 5 for this.

ck_one
3 replies
4h43m

Can anyone recommend a method to deduplicate pdfs? The hash is often different but the content and meta data is 99.99% the same.

strangus
0 replies
4h14m

cp?

pixelmonkey
0 replies
3h12m

You might want strip metadata before doing a comparison, using exiftool. Even though exiftool was originally written for EXIF metadata on JPGs, these days, it supports a lot of metadata standards, including PDF. This command will do it assuming you set filename=`basename your.pdf .pdf`:

    exiftool -all= -o ${filename}.stripped.pdf ${filename}.pdf
That won't help you with small differences in the contents, but might help with small differences in metadata. Running `md5sum` on the stripped PDF should give more reliable dedupe results.

I was recently working on a similar problem for JPG, RAW, and MP4 files (photo/video backup) so it is fresh in my mind.

bob1029
0 replies
2h33m

I would consider rasterizing the PDFs and then hashing the resulting bitmaps.

mikeyinternews
2 replies
4h38m

You can do this with Beyond Compare (it's not free, but not very expensive either) https://www.scootersoftware.com/

Rinzler89
1 replies
4h28m

Beyond Compare is one of those priceless tools I pay for myself instead of waiting for my employer to pay for it. Price/functionality wise it's worth its weight in gold, it's cross platform, and its licensing is very liberal. There's just no FOSS compare tools out there that can match BC.

hipnoizz
0 replies
3h51m

What are BC features that you find to be so great?

I'm genuinely curious - I heard of lot of BC being 'the tool' for diffing. I'm used to Meld, but my current employee has a pretty strict policy which tools could be used so at some point I've managed a licence for some older version of BC. But for some reason I've found its UI/the way it works a bit less optimal that I was accustomed for. Since I'm using that primarily for text diffs these day I usually use a diff tool from IntelliJ Idea (I have Idea open all the time).

canistel
2 replies
8h58m

Interestingly, Github thinks the project is 46% shell, due to the fairly huge wxwin.m4.

infecto
1 replies
6h15m

I noticed this a while back with a private project of mine. The Github languages breakdown seems broken. Mine is a Python project with a handful of Jupyter notebooks but many many python files. The LOC must be 80% python files but Github sees the project as 50% Jupyter.

ydant
1 replies
3h59m

Related - this might be helpful to someone.

ImageMagick can do a visual PDF compare:

    magick compare -density "$DENSITY" -background white "$1[0]" "$2[0]" "$TMP"
(density = 100, $1 and $2 are the filenames to compare, $TMP the output file)

You need to do some work to support multiple pages, so I use this script:

https://gist.github.com/mbafford/7e6f3bef20fc220f68e467589bb...

This also uses `imgcat` to show the difference directly in the terminal.

You can also use ImageMagick get a perceptual hash difference using something like:

    convert -metric phash "$1" null: "$2" -compose Difference -layers composite -format '%[fx:mean]\n' info:
I use the fact you can configure git to use custom diff tools and take advantage of this with the following in my .gitconfig:

    [diff "pdf"]
        command = ~/bin/git-diff-pdf
And in my .gitattributes I enable the above with:

    *.pdf binary diff=pdf
~/bin/git-diff-pdf does a diff of the output of `pdftotext -layout` (from poppler) and also runs pdf-compare-phash.

To use this custom diff with `git show`, you need to add an extra argument (`git show --ext-diff`), but it uses it automatically if running `git diff`.

bigfatfrock
0 replies
3h18m

Next level, especially with the git attribute calls, well played.

I'm still blown away how powerful imagemagick is after using it for a decade or two, what an inspiring piece of open source software.

tomwheeler
1 replies
4h27m

In a previous job, I had to validate the output of an unreliable production publishing system, so I tested dozens of PDF comparison tools available at the time. The best I found was called Delta Walker. It was proprietary commercial Mac-only software, but reasonably inexpensive, accurate, and could handle long PDFs with lots of graphics well.

I remember evaluating this diff-pdf tool and finding that it fell short in some way, although it's been so long that I don't recall the specifics. Most of them failed to identify changes or reported false positives. I also remember being disappointed since this one was open source and could easily be scripted.

riedel
1 replies
1h51m

I always used DiffPDF only to read on their website: > in the view of the EU’s Cyber Resilience Act and an abundance of caution, we have withdrawn all our free software

[1]

Good to see post-cyberresilience alternatives :)

PDF diffs are really great for versioning/comparing PCB-Designs. (The only real use case I had 15 yrs back)

[1] http://www.qtrac.eu/diffpdf-foss.html

yencabulator
0 replies
43m

What a convenient excuse for them to try to get people to switch to their proprietary fork.

I genuinely need a side-by-side PDF comparison tool, and the diff-pdf tool linked from the main link doesn't do that. Any thoughts?

sva_
0 replies
4h54m

Coincidentally I downloaded and tried using this just a while ago. I was trying to see if it can identify an Elsevier fingerprint between two pdfs. It can't, it only compares visible things.

I used vbindiff instead.

strangus
0 replies
4h2m

https://10052.ai has a tool that will visually compare documents(pdfs, doc, image,etc) and cluster them together. It works amazingly well.

redman25
0 replies
4h48m

I created a similar in-browser version a while back with mozilla's pdf-js. The diff rendering is all run client side.

https://www.parepdf.com

The diff-pdf project was my inspiration but I wanted to create a version that was distributable to non-programmers.

rawbert
0 replies
9h0m

We use this tool in our team regularly for comparison of PDFs we obtain from third party services that might have changed after code-changes on our side. Big thanks to the author <3

poidos
0 replies
6h32m

Reminds me of the tool Bob Nystrom wrote to help himself out when working on the physical edition of Crafting Interpreters: https://journal.stuffwithstuff.com/2020/04/05/crafting-craft...

Whole article is worth reading, but if you want the relevant bits search for “ I wrote a Dart script that would take a PDF of the book”.

jgalt212
0 replies
6h29m

Thanks. I'll give this a shot to see if any counterparties try to sneak in any last second changes to the executable version of the doc.

jaustin
0 replies
9h2m

We've been using this in the Micro:bit Educational Foundation (microbit.org) to fill a gap in hardware design tooling, and get visual diffs of our schematics and gerbers during PCB design iterations. It's kinda wild that's what we ended up doing, but if you want to be sure your radio layout didn't change at all when you're making a minor revision to a different part of the board, visual diffs are perfect.

That said, next project we want to try something more integrated with EDA tools. If anyone else has followed this path, we'd love to know.

fwn
0 replies
3h52m

I really like the overlay view and that it is not cloud based. Will try to test it at work.

I rely heavily on PDF comparison via PDF-XChange Editor, which is accurate for text, but often has trouble highlighting visual changes correctly.

deckar01
0 replies
4h53m

I wrote a pixel-based visual diffing algorithm long ago that was intended for a CI tool that finds all of the UI changes in a PR. I broke the layout of a page I didn’t even know existed as an intern at Inkling and have had this idea in my head ever since.

https://github.com/deckar01/narcis

atum47
0 replies
5h5m

back when I was writing my final paper I faced a similar issue, needed to de-duplicate a bunch of PDF's, so I came up with a simple solution

https://github.com/victorqribeiro/dtf

TacticalCoder
0 replies
3h9m

This reminds me of a book author who posted here IIRC. He had a little tool allowing him to quickly compare two revisions of his book. For example too make sure typos fixed didn't t break havoc. I remember his tool would show in red what had changed on pages thumbnails.