The amount of on-site only job listings now in 2024 is insane.
I cannot believe you people will work for these companies and managers that require on-site and not fight back. We're losing our power. I hope nobody applies to these jobs.
Datadog, on-site only in NYC, Paris, Boston and Tel Aviv.. lmao. I live in one of the USA HCOL cities (not those, I'm Denver/Austin) and I wouldn't go near those places rent wise. $3500/month for a 2 bedroom is high enough for me to sit on my computer and write go. I've worked at 4 companies in the last decade moving off of Datadog to Grafana and they require on-site in NYC to write log chutes and charging an insane amount for their product while paying their NYC engineers $300k+. Wild.
I'll never apply to a non-remote software engineering job again, and I'm willing to retire or switch careers before I compromise on that. There is absolutely no reason for the majority of software jobs to not be fully remote in 2024, and the quality of life allowed by the switch was transformative for me.
Except a lot of people enjoy coming into the office, of course.
I’d maybe ask what “a lot” means, because I haven’t worked with too many people who enjoy it. But regardless, when I say a job should be fully remote, I just mean it should be able/permitted to be done 100% remotely. If someone wants to do that job from the office, that’s OK too.
You should according to... well, yourself. But for teams who are co-located and meet up in the office 1-2 days a week, your never being around physically might be a distraction. We're not all the same.
In your scenario, what is it about me not being physically present in person, that would constitute a distraction? Please cite sources/data for any claims you make.
edit: Also, if the answer is that the company is just not prepared with the infrastructure & culture needed to support fully-remote developers, they are closing themselves off to approximately 40% of the available talent pool, not to mention a disproportionate number of minorities and women[0]. This should constitute an emergency that must be corrected immediately in the mind of any competent CTO or engineering leader.
[0] https://www.techtarget.com/searchhrsoftware/news/365531979/N...
Skill growth while working remotely slows and plateaus. There's plenty of evidence for this at this point, and I attribute most of the catastrophe in junior engineers at the big companies to it.
I'd rather work hybrid, getting working time at home is great, but I'm not foolish enough to cripple myself long-term by insisting on favoring short-term comfort.
Do you work for global companies? I'm in a major city that has a horrible/non-existant tech comnmunity so if I took a "local" job I'd drop my salary by at least $80k. I have worked for Denver companies and the vibe is completely different though, which is nice. Like, everyone will know Wednesday is a great skiing day so half the company leaves to go ski and nobody cares. Or we have hockey playoffs or whatever everyone expects you might be celebrating.
Can't do that at my globo corp which can barely handle setting meetings in my time zone.. but pays way more..
Can you provide some of this evidence? This is not what I see in my experience, I've learned a lot being remote! I know there's articles saying that people don't work as much, etc, or get promoted as much, but I've not seen something about learning new skills.
I’m interested in learning more about your claim re: skill growth. Can you please provide some data/studies?
some management styles work better in person. so for you this is just a fast filter of things you don't want
Upsetting isn't it?