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John Walker, founder of Autodesk, has died

peblos
25 replies
15h15m

His Hacker’s Diet really helped me out 15 years ago or so. Cheers John

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hacker%27s_Diet

masto
11 replies
14h35m

Me too, though it was more like 25 years. If someone asked me "who is your hero", I would answer John Walker. To be honest, I didn't know all that much about him beyond The Hacker's Diet, his own autobiography/Autodesk File, and the stuff on his web site circa 15-20 years ago. But the things I did know seemed admirable:

* He was an engineer's engineer, and when his company became successful, the impression I got was that he stayed one.

* The Hacker's Diet is a good example - approaching weight loss as a problem to be solved the same as any other: by learning what's known about it and using empiricism and data.

* As far as I can tell, at some point he decided he had achieved all the money he needed so he went off to Switzerland and became a sort of mad scientist, pursuing whatever interested him for the rest of his life. Including things like the hotbits random number generator, where he installed a radiation source in his basement and used it to serve random bits up via a public web API.

None of us are perfect, and it's best not to know too much about one's heroes, so I didn't. I looked up to the John Walker in my mind as the person I want to be when I grow up, and this sad news hits hard.

paulpauper
10 replies
14h8m

It's basic CICO, from having skimmed it. The problem is this type of diet has the greatest likelihood of failing. CICO is hard to maintain. Eventually willpower fails and gradual overeating begins, leading to surprisingly large and abrupt weight regain. Being persistently hungry all the time just sucks.

Some of the stuff is possibly wrong, like this

There's a lot of nonsense floating around regarding exercise and weight control. The only way to lose weight is to eat less than your body burns. Period. Exercising causes your body to burn more, but few people have the time or inclination to exercise enough to make a big difference. An hour of jogging is worth about one Cheese Whopper. Now, are you going to really spend an hour on the road every day just to burn off that extra burger?

There is scant to zero literature to suggest exercising raises metabolism. Recent research by Herman Pontzer shows the opposite, that calories burned with exercise are negated later through lowered BMR and NEAT. So if you do a 400-calorie run and then eat a 400 calorie cookie, you will still get a net 400 gain, or close to it.

kiba
2 replies
13h19m

There is scant to zero literature to suggest exercising raises metabolism. Recent research by Herman Pontzer shows the opposite, that calories burned with exercise are negated later through lowered BMR and NEAT. So if you do a 400-calorie run and then eat a 400 calorie cookie, you will still get a net 400 gain, or close to it.

You could achieve a constant NEAT by having a daily step goal or some prescribed amount of activities outside your exercise routine. I am supposed to do 2 hours of exercise per day plus give or take 10K steps. This can easily make me extremely active by American standard.

Now, surely your BMR will compensate, but probably only to a certain point.

In the end, it's probably easier to just eat healthy and eat less rather than trying to increase your caloric expenditure, but that's also rather hard to do for a variety of reasons.

lazyasciiart
0 replies
9h45m

“Supposed to”? Is this a lifestyle/athletic goal, or a medical recommendation (or something else)?

imp0cat
0 replies
12h56m

Also, regular exercise will have more benefits than just increasing your caloric expenditure. It keeps your muscle mass from deterioriating as you age.

peblos
1 replies
13h43m

Didn't want to delve into it in the original comment but what you mention is correct and is one of the reasons I mentioned how far back this was.

I haven't read Herman Pontzer's recent research, I'd equate to becoming a more efficient runner; as efficiency increases energy demands are reduced.

Some of today's research just didn't exist when this was written. Of course, some of the advice was already debatable by the time I got to read it in the mid-late 00's, but that can be said for a lot of health and fitness advice even today.

I didn't follow it proscriptively. What it did do was give me a different approach to tackling it as a problem and was the first resource I had read that helped in that regard. Everything else was very much eat less of this and more of that

Like thread's asking which book/resource to use when learning to code, there are many good examples out there. Not all are perfect, and some are occasionally wrong but like that example, this was the one that stuck with me.

zikzak
0 replies
5h57m

Something most people miss, as it is only briefly mentioned, is he was eating on big meal each day after work. That's basically like 20/2 intermittent fasting. It definitely would have had an effect on his metabolism and insulin resistance. It's not a dictum, he just gives an anecdote and mentions it.

I was reviewing HD a few years ago to see if it still held up against current, prevailing wisdom and noticed this. Kind of blew my mind.

tpm
0 replies
10h15m

So if you do a 400-calorie run

That's not enough, the energy will be provided by glycogen stored in muscles and fat stored in the liver and those will be restored quickly. What happens if you do a 3000 calorie bike tour is the interesting question.

Exercising raises metabolism at least during during the exercise (anything different would be a physical nonsense) - the issue is not exercising enough.

masto
0 replies
13h16m

There’s a time and a place, man. Well actuallying on an obituary isn’t it.

gumby
0 replies
13h1m

CICO is hard to maintain. Eventually willpower fails and gradual overeating begins, leading to surprisingly large and abrupt weight regain.

The key difference, for nerd hackers, is the floater/sinker graph and the average. Some apps do this these days, though it seems to be less common than it was a few years ago (e.g. Withings and Apple no longer present their data that way).

So as long as the sinker is below the trend you will lose, at some rate. You don’t have to be starving yourself unless you have a fetish, just stay below the trend line. When you have a spurt of enthusiasm you can drive yourself lower; when you are finding it hard, just try to stay below trend.

It’s a manual form of gamification.

graphe
0 replies
2h51m

The problem is this type of diet has the greatest likelihood of failing. CICO is hard to maintain.

CICO is hard for people who are fat or who will become fat. It is not true it is hard. It is poor impulse control, not lack of willpower.

There is scant to zero literature to suggest exercising raises metabolism. Recent research by Herman Pontzer shows the opposite, that calories burned with exercise are negated later through lowered BMR and NEAT. So if you do a 400-calorie run and then eat a 400 calorie cookie, you will still get a net 400 gain, or close to it.

Nonsense, this is a lie to make obese people not exercise. Anyone who has exercised knows this is fake news. By perpetrating fake "science" you are also a source of demotivating people to improve. It is disgusting to post this. Look at a runner, your fake "science" busted. The Hadza are as genetically removed from other humans as possible (including their distance from other African peoples).

Kon5ole
0 replies
9h52m

It's basic CICO, from having skimmed it. The problem is this type of diet has the greatest likelihood of failing.

I couldn't disagree more. THD is not really a diet, it just explains the baseline facts of weight loss and enables you to choose whatever diet that works for you. It takes the mystery out of it. You may gain weight one week and lose weight the next, but you will know why.

The hackers diet makes a very convincing argument that any diet that works is in fact "CICO in disguise". The key point being that "Calories in" is not whatever is printed on the box, it is instead /what your body has absorbed from it/.

So for example when you eat 3000 calories of salmon in bearnaise sauce as part of your Atkins or whatever and you lose weight, clearly your body is not absorbing 3000 calories (for whatever reason). If you follow the hacks in THD you will discover this, and any other effect various foods have on /you/. It will also help you discover if a 400-calorie run actually works for you or not.

I am very thankful to Mr Walker for writing THD. He gave me the tools to "fix myself" when I notice that I have put on a few, and I have used those tools successfully many times.

hobabaObama
7 replies
14h18m

For anyone wanting to read this book

https://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/e4/introduction.html

fermentation
6 replies
14h4m

Anyone else feel a little weird reading the section about exercise?

You exercise because you'll live longer and you'll feel better.

It's a little depressing that despite a good diet and exercise, he had a slightly shorter than average lifespan. When I put in the effort to eat well and exercise, I know I certainly have the mindset that it will extend my life. I hope that at the least he felt strong and healthy.

jdougan
3 replies
14h0m

He died from an accident. Stairs can be hazardous.

dredmorbius
2 replies
9h14m

Source?

jdougan
1 replies
7h31m

Private forum post at Scanalyst. I accidentally posted a ref on HN to it earlier not noticing it was not public.

dredmorbius
0 replies
5h33m

Thanks.

swader999
0 replies
7h35m

How functional you are in later years certainly correlates to exercise and diet.

paulpauper
0 replies
13h52m

no cause of death is given. people who are healthy can still die early from accidents

snthpy
0 replies
13h43m

Same here. Thank you John!

paulpauper
0 replies
14h10m

it even has a wiki devoted to it? Seems a tad overdone but I guess it meets the criteria of notability.

btilly
0 replies
14h38m

Likewise, but more like 20 years ago for me. Kept it off for many years as well.

I should do that again actually. Gained some weight during COVID.

AdeptusAquinas
0 replies
13h23m

I was put on it by nuwen.net, went from 110 to 80 some 15 years ago, changed my life. RIP

38
0 replies
14h13m
alliao
16 replies
11h27m

I saw his article on reversing myopia and followed his advice to this day; I hope he doesn't mind me sharing his suggestions!

"I think the next time I go for new glasses, I'll skip the progressives (which are extremely expensive) and just get reading/computer and driving glasses, each fixed-corrected to the appropriate distance. This will probably cut the cost in half, and I find that when I'm travelling and wearing the progressives, I usually just push them down my nose to read rather than trying to read through the lower part, which is pretty wonky (this may have something to do with my astigmatism correction)."

amazing human taking time answering rando emails from the internet. world would be infinitely better with more like him.

femto
7 replies
11h10m

The world's changed since then. If you go to the right online glasses providers, you can get progressives for much less (<half) than the cost of a pair of single power glasses in a high street store.

noir_lord
3 replies
10h34m

True but some of what he says still makes sense.

i.e. I'm near sighted now (need reading glasses) and have astigamatism (I've always had that but until I needed reading glasses I never bothered with glasses so my brain has adapted, if I wear lenses that correct for the astigmatism everything looks the wrong shape for quite a while before eyes adjust then when I don't wear them everything looks the wrong shape but the other way so in the end I just went for glasses for close vision work (screen/reading) since that was less bothersome than "fixing" a problem that isn't really a problem).

gtirloni
2 replies
8h32m

I'm in the same situation. Astigmatism and really mild myopia all my life (got glasses but never really used them).

My eyes got really tired a year ago and I got glasses for short distances. But now they got much worse and I think I'll have to order new lenses.

I was thinking about progressives but it looks like a lot of people have issues adapting. Since my myopia continues low, I think I'll just focus on the reading glasses for now.

Any advice welcome.

wmertens
0 replies
6h22m

I got dramatical improvement in my myopia over a few months time when I switched to a Paleo-ish diet, drastically cutting sugar and supplementing with vitamins including luteine.

I no longer needed my glasses to drive or go to the movies. Granted it was only -1 but still.

Now a decade on, my diet isn't so clean any more, far away details are somewhat blurry but still better than they used to be. The biggest impact is the amount of sleep I had the night before.

dnh44
0 replies
1h5m

Progressive's are the highest margin lens for both the retail store and the manufacturers (Essilor, Zeiss, Hoya, Rodenstock, etc). By putting a fancy curve on the back of a lens a $1 piece of plastic is transformed into a $500 piece of plastic. There is a lot of pressure to sell progressives. Without the high margins on progressive lenses many optical retail stores would not make a profit.

Progressives are fine as long as they aren't being sold as a lens for all situations. For example a lens that would be good for driving or playing golf (using mostly distance vision) would be terrible for sitting at a desk (using mostly the reading area). Depending on your lifestyle there may or may not be a design available that is less annoying than just changing glasses. Bifocals are even more limited in this respect. This trade-off is not related at all to the issue of adaptation which is something else.

So the first question you have to ask is if having both a distance and reading Rx in the same lens is something that is better for you compared to separate distance and reading glasses. My monitors are at head height so simple reading glasses are the best solution for me when working at my desk. If I wore progressives with this setup I would have to tilt my head back in order to view my monitors through the reading area of the lens which is at the bottom of the lens. If I instead worked on a notebook computer all day, looking down at a screen, then viewing that screen through the reading area of my glasses wouldn't be a problem.

I'm currently wearing a pair of fancy fully personalised progressives that retail for £2000 a pair but I still use some cheapish reading glasses for working at my desk. However to be fair to the progressives I adapted to them just about instantly; the design just wasn't suited for reading for long periods of time.

The adaptation issue is another issue and another thing you should consider. Adaptation refers to the ability to become accustomed to the distortion that often exists at the edges of progressive lenses. They can make you feel a bit dizzy when you first wear them. The general rule of thumb is that if you have a small "add" then it will be easy to adapt to them but if you have a large add it may be difficult.

If your add is small now and don't see the point of progressives but are thinking of trying them later as your near vision deteriorates you may want to consider starting on them early just to make it easier to adapt to them later. Otherwise you might get stuck with bifocals which make you look old.

Anyway if I had to boil that advice down to just a few quick points I'd say:

- If you're planning on using the glasses just for working at a desk then I would just get reading glasses (that also correct your astigmatism).

- For other situations where you need both distance and reading then progressives can be nice.

- If you're not quite sure about progressives but think you'll definitely want them later in life then it is better to start on them now.

- If you're buying online I would only get single vision lenses. To get a nice fit for progressives you need to get a bunch of stuff measured that doesn't get put on your prescription.

kwanbix
1 replies
9h8m

What options do you use? I know about Zennit but I always wondered if there is something better, as my progresive are very expensive.

bayindirh
0 replies
8h57m

Zeiss & Hoya make good lenses. Both also have expertise in photography equipment and they have their own coatings, so they're also a plus. Their lenses might not come cheap, though.

I also used Japanese Tora and French Essilor Crizal lenses (cylindrical, not progressives), and they had good resolution with superb coatings.

Currently I'm using a domestic lens with blue filter, and my eyes are happier than ever.

My mother uses progressives. A bad progressive is a life quality reducing expense, so paying the price for a good lens pays in dividends over the short and long run.

AdamN
0 replies
10h7m

I got progressives a few months ago - going back to reading glasses

fuzztester
2 replies
8h56m

I saw his article on reversing myopia

Where did you see it? I'd like to read it too.

alliao
1 replies
8h24m
Asooka
0 replies
2h19m

In the end he recommends if you need cataract surgery, i.e. a lens replacement, to get a lens focused at reading distance. Note that there is progress being made on accommodating implantable ocular lenses (also called variable-focus) which can shift their focus similar to your natural lens. I'm personally keeping an eye out on these guys https://ocumetics.com/ .

DonHopkins
1 replies
5h54m

Progressives just don't make sense to me. I have a pair of computer glasses, and a pair of bike riding glasses, and I never ride my bike while using the computer. So why would I want to have 50% of my vision blurry at all times?

RHSeeger
0 replies
5h44m

I got bifocals for driving, so that I could read the gps when necessary. Turns out it's not really very useful because it's hard to "glance" that the gps and get it in the right area of my vision to use the "reading" part of the glasses. I wouldn't do it again. That being said, having the "reading" part of the glasses doesn't negatively impact my using them for distance, so I could see the benefit of the bifocal just so you always have the reading part available without needing a second pair of glasses.

To the best of my knowledge, bifocals are just progressives with a distinct line where the prescription changes; instead of having an area where it "transitions". They look archaic (social concerns, if you care about that kind of thing) in exchange for not having a whole area of the lens that isn't usable at all.

swader999
0 replies
7h43m

This is interesting, I'm going through an internal debate about what type of lense to go with for cataract surgery. The latest progressive lenses or just correct for distance and wear reading glasses for close in work. I've come to the same conclusion, better to go with single lense, rather than the progressives.

phkahler
0 replies
4h21m

> amazing human taking time answering rando emails from the internet.

Life tip: Most people will do that if your email is about something they are interested in and (most importantly) they have time. Celebrities are usually off the table (no time for all the fan email), but this guy is "just" a retired engineer who made a big product and a lot of money. You were also asking about some side interest of his, so I would almost expect a response.

Be polite and fairly concise (brief, they don't need your life story out the gate) on a topic of interest to them and most people will respond positively.

galoisscobi
0 replies
3h20m

I’m curious about how long have you been trying out his advice and if you have seen any improvements in your prescription?

orsenthil
12 replies
12h40m

I have benefited from his "The Hackers Diet" book - https://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/ and his numerous book reviews. He was one of persons who inspired me with his voracious reading habit. It was unbelievable to me first. He also led his life in his own way, with not many knowing that he was the founder of Autodesk. He will remain an inspiration to hackers.

gtirloni
7 replies
8h43m

Looks nice! Is the science sound?

p_l
5 replies
7h29m

For hacker's diet?

Yes, but it's very barebones basics of calorie deficit calculations, and do not take into account (very individual) differences across the day.

zikzak
4 replies
6h6m

Actually, on close reading, you realize he's eating one large meal a day and that's it. This is actually intermittent fasting "before it was cool".

p_l
3 replies
5h48m

Yes, but it's not articulated in detail why and how it works.

It's a good start, and for many it will help - hell, it did help me just by putting it down in clear numbers that ultimately calorie deficit is the crucial thing.

Asooka
2 replies
2h36m

it's not articulated in detail why and how it works

Answering that is a very long and fascinating deep dive in human biology with plenty of unknowns. I wouldn't even try to summarise as I myself am nowhere near knowledgeable enough on the topic. For myself, I've noticed that maintaining a calorie deficit is simply easier if it's a regular meal and then no meal than if it's two half meals.

nsxwolf
0 replies
1h51m

I can go for days without eating and not think about it too much - but as soon as I start eating, I become obsessed with food and cannot stop. So if I just eat dinner, there's not enough time left in the day to overeat.

That's why it works for me.

mediumsmart
0 replies
50m

You might like this talk fwiw: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RuOvn4UqznU

Quekid5
0 replies
7h30m

If you mean The Hacker's Diet, then yes. It's just a way of doing CICO and weight tracking (+ smoothing to avoid demotivating wild fluctuations), so yes.

tjansen
1 replies
9h53m

Wow, yes. I first read it 25-30 years ago, and had no idea who he was. But it's one of the few books that really changed my life.

jimmydddd
0 replies
5h31m

This past weekend I noticed I've been logging my weight daily on his site (it does a 10 day weighted running average) since 2006. I was thinking of sending him an email thanking him for the help he provided me. So, a strange coincidence. RIP.

cryptozeus
0 replies
11h4m

Thanks for sharing this. What a gem !

chpatrick
0 replies
7h41m

It helped me a lot too. Rest in peace, John.

gregw2
12 replies
15h10m

His story of the beginnings of Autodesk (“The Autodesk File”) is very interesting and contains a number of lessons: https://www.fourmilab.ch/autofile/

xtracto
8 replies
14h29m

This snippet is amazing and hilarious at the same time:

The game has changed. In 1977 this business was fun—the sellers and buyers were hotshot techies like ourselves, everybody spoke the same language and knew what was going on, and technical excellence was recognised and rewarded. Today, the microcomputer industry is run by middle manager types who know far more about P/L statements than they do RAM organization. They are the people who determine whether you succeed or fail, and their evaluations are seldom based on technical qualities. Hence, the first thing any venture in this field has to be is businesslike.

I felt that way in the early 90s with PCs programming and late 90's with the Internet. Once the "suits" take over, things get boring for us techies.

foofie
4 replies
12h14m

Once the "suits" take over, things get boring for us techies.

To be fair, "suits" are a sign of success and growth. Once your company is large enough to be just a single team, and starts requiring too much time to keep track of all things happening and what each employee thinks and does, managing becomes a dedicated job and delegating management requires dedicated managers.

Also, I think that point of view is through rose-colored glasses. One circle of hell is comprised of being managed by an awkward antisocial techie.

lukan
1 replies
10h15m

"One circle of hell is comprised of being managed by an awkward antisocial techie."

And heaven is, competent techies, who know and trust each other and know the mission - and need not being managed.

docmars
0 replies
3h44m

Right? Do passionate hobbiests really need non-tech managers if they're successful?

MetalGuru
1 replies
11h1m

Although rare, there are managers who are both technically competent and good at managing people (disparate skillsets). I think a manager who knows nothing about tech is often as destructive as a technical manager who's bad at people management. There just seems to be more of the former

Brian_K_White
0 replies
8h3m

I would say that if someone is supposedly good at people or managing, but bad at tech and therefore bad at managing tech, then they are not good at people or managing.

dylan604
1 replies
12h50m

It's like that saying, "nobody goes there any more. it's too crowded"

dcminter
0 replies
11h30m
Ccecil
0 replies
9h22m

This is very much how I feel about the RepRap/3d printing community.

Must be a common pattern in tech.

evaneykelen
2 replies
11h19m

I've read it at least twice over the years and its descriptions of hard-learned lessons, sales tactics, product decisions, hiring, management structures, internationalization, funding, dealing with partnerships, and chasing and reaching break-even are very much applicable to today's startups. Some paragraphs in the book even sound like PG whispered advice in John's ear but obviously the rise of Autodesk predates YC by decades.

jdougan
1 replies
10h55m

I'd say the odds are good PG had read it. It has been on the Web since the mid 90s.

evaneykelen
0 replies
10h33m

You noticed my insinuation :-)

defrost
8 replies
14h48m

Takes me back.

One of my earliest "big" gigs for good money was a mid 80's use of the newly released AutoLisp(?) to generate non standard (for the day) engineering forms for computational analysis.

The architects made a bit of a wild sketch for a big international mega millions build contract, the engineering crowd made it work - the architects got a fancy award, we got a thank you bread and cheese thing with drinks.

(And paid .. that counts.)

R.I.P. John Walker - https://www.fourmilab.ch/evilempire/

tralarpa
7 replies
10h16m

This is a little bit weird: https://www.fourmilab.ch/evilempire/noEU/

itsoktocry
3 replies
6h53m

What's weird about having strong opinions about the European Union?

walthamstow
2 replies
5h43m

I guess it's tongue in cheek, and it is funny, but some of what is written is a bit weird.

"anti-democratic ... empire at the expense of the natural rights, individual liberty, local autonomy, and cultural diversity which made Europe the wellspring of Western civilisation."

Firstly, I wouldn't call Mesopotamia and the eastern Med Europe exactly.

Secondly, lot of cultural and scientific advances that did happen in Europe were under (among others) the Roman, Holy Roman, British and Spanish Empires, which are exactly what he is against!

It's also weird that he thinks the EU "began to sprout" in 2003, a decade after Maastrict.

cnasc
1 replies
5h33m

Is Mesopotamia typically considered the “west?”

walthamstow
0 replies
4h9m

Latin and Greek are both successors to the Phoenician alphabet. The Phoenicians settled parts of modern day Europe and brought their alphabet and other technologies that they inherited from Mesopotamian civs. The Greeks would have been nowhere without Babylonian maths and astrology.

West and East is very grey though. I've made a distinction that I'm happy with, and pointed out why I'm not happy with John's.

What do you think?

dontupvoteme
1 replies
6h20m

could not tell if this was satire or not. interesting fella

walthamstow
0 replies
5h56m

It seems like satire today given what's happened in the last 10 years but given it was published 2003, he was well ahead of the times and possibly writing with tongue in cheek, even if he did believe the thrust of it

defrost
0 replies
9h57m

Perhaps, but certainly consistent. John was famously not a fan of large government, be it the USSR, the USofA, or the EU - a believer in small government and prepared to sell merch to just that end.

mistrial9
5 replies
15h21m

I recall the small dot-c text file that was passed around, that contained his sequence of tests for float integrity on a portable C compiler and architecture. It was a gold-standard at the time.

mistrial9
3 replies
14h11m
darkwater
2 replies
8h51m

Wow! It went down from over 2000 seconds to less than half a second, as HW improved. And the last test was ran on a Pentium 4. I wonder what are the results on today's HW.

fallingknife
1 replies
4h54m

No need to wonder. You can run it. https://www.fourmilab.ch/fbench/

darkwater
0 replies
2h2m

OK, tested the C version on my Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1065G7 CPU @ 1.30GHz and following the instructions

Measured run time in seconds should be divided by 400000 to normalise for reporting results. For archival results, adjust iteration count so the benchmark runs about five minutes.

so it ran for 246 seconds (almost 5 minutes) and the normalized result is:

0.000617025

jdougan
0 replies
15h19m

It was also ported to a number of languages and used as a benchmark.

adamgordonbell
4 replies
5h11m

I lost weight thanks to trendweight and his 'The Hackers Diet' method of weight loss.

I had written him down as potential podcast guest, skimmed through some of his autodesk diaries and just never gotten around to reaching out to him.

Man, that sucks.

If you want to do his diet: get a smart scale and use TrendWeight. It doesn't tell you what to eat, but gives better data about whether you are on track or not then anything else I've seen. You weigh yourself daily, but only pay attention to a moving average and a future projection. That smooths out all noise in a scale measurement.

It uses an Exponential Moving Average, which I suspect is the real innovation. That smooths out the daily data with the longer term trends.

https://trendweight.com/

rockdiesel
1 replies
4h46m

If you haven't heard of it, maybe give MacroFactor a look (not affiliated, just a happy user). It is the only food log and weight tracker that I've used with success. On the weight tracking side, it also requires daily weigh-ins and tracks your trend weight over time. Combining that with the calories you log, it determines your TDEE and adjusts your calories and macros from week to week depending on the goal you want to achieve.

https://macrofactorapp.com/

adamgordonbell
0 replies
4h36m

Very cool. I'll check it out.

The limitation, but also the real benefit of the Trend Weight is there is no tracking of food. Each day you can see if you are above or below the trend line and how many calories you are above or below where you need to be.

It's just the diff, basically.

acjohnson55
1 replies
4h50m

That's interesting, I designed essentially the same system, which I have used several times to get my weight back in range. The 7-day moving average is what I pay attention to. It has fields for notes on food eaten, exercise, and alcohol. The idea is to let the feedback of the data influence my behavior, rather than being prescriptive.

I knew it couldn't possibly be completely original, but it's cool to hear whose thoughts mine shadowed.

adamgordonbell
0 replies
4h38m

Yeah, averages are super helpful.

I wish my smart scale could pull the data from trendweight and just say "above" or "below". With the Hackers Diet that is all that matters is whether you are above or below the trend line.

51Cards
4 replies
5h17m

I was in high school right at the time the first CAD systems came in and our school was the test school for the region. Our older drafting teacher didn't want to learn the new system so he asked the class who knew "computers". I had had Commodore PETs at home for a few years and was teaching myself to code. My hand shot up and I was given full access to the new machine to "figure it out". It was my first introduction to PCs (IBM XT) and of course AutoCAD. I still remember, version 1.17b. I was introduced to LISP in AutoCAD, I ended up partaking in regional training for the other schools when they got their CAD systems, and then into a job working with AutoCAD.

In my 20's I started a company developing engineering and architectural add-ons in LISP for AutoCAD, and while we later transitioned into a general software house, those will always be my roots. John's products changed the direction of my life and I wish I had had the chance to let him know that.

When the school region later deprecated that IBM XT 10 years later the school asked me if I wanted it. Still have it along with the original Kurta tablet and Roland plotter.

jimmydddd
0 replies
3h30m

Great story and I can relate. In the late '80's I worked as a summer engineering intern at a civil engineering company. They assigned me to train the crochety draftsmen on AudCAD, but they wanted nothing to do with it. To paint a picture, these guys were hunching over drafting tables using pencils and erasers to draw their drawings, while chain smoking the whole time. An ash tray would be placed on the center of the drawing. Needless to say, my summer project was not a success! :-)

dekhn
0 replies
2h0m

Same here, late 80s I took a high school drafting class and asked about the PCs in the back, the teacher said "I don't know anything about them, they have some software called AutoCAD. Do you want to take an elective and learn how it works?" It was entirely 2D and I went through all the exercises quickly.

That foundational knowledge stuck with me and although it's not my job at all, I use Fusion 360 all the time at home to design parts for my self-built microscope and many other things. It's a great tool.

NotSammyHagar
0 replies
26m

This is a great recollection. I was in high school in the early 80s, and I took engineering drafting because I wanted to be an engineer. It was all manual drawing lines, lettering, figuring out where to center your thing on the paper, no computers. I wonder when my school switched to CAD - I could have just missed your life story! When I got to college I was a CS major and we didn't have to do CAD or blueprints.

93po
0 replies
3h51m

That's a really cool story, thank you for sharing

nxobject
2 replies
12h9m

I hope those who take care of John's affairs will find a way to preserve fourmilab.ch (although the Wayback Machine is already doing the job, too) – although the site's still up, I worry that some direct debit will fail...

Animats
1 replies
12h5m

It's being taken care of.

Xunxi
0 replies
11h14m

I recently joined scanalyst and binge trawled the site to read everything accessible.

It is oasis in the midst of all the internet cacophony and I'm glad to 'it's being taken of'

jim_lawless
2 replies
15h13m

I was particularly fond of his ATLAST Forth-like programming language.

https://www.fourmilab.ch/atlast/

Rest in peace.

mxyzptlk
0 replies
4h4m

Another atlast fan here. I used it as an extension language for SDL (Simple DirectMedia Layer) and wrote games for the GP2X handheld in a Forth-like language. Everything should be scriptable.

1337p337
0 replies
14h6m

I loved that language. I actually forked it, used it for a lot of stuff, bloated it (started by just trying to port to x86-64, ended up with a mini-FORTH with regexes, FFI to C, etc.). I still use it every day, though mostly for doing math in hex.

jacquesm
2 replies
6h40m

Oh that sucks... John was instrumental in the success of ww.com, thanks to him we had speakfreely as the audio layer using the GSM encoder.

His 'digital imprimatur' was as prophetic as much as it is still relevant today, well worth reading:

https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/digital-imprimatur/

jacquesm
0 replies
4h1m

And just in case you never came across it:

https://through-the-interface.typepad.com/through_the_interf...

A great interview with him.

fallingknife
0 replies
2h54m
hitekker
2 replies
13h45m

He parted ways with Autodesk a long time ago but it would have been nice for his former company to acknowledge him https://www.autodesk.com/

francisofascii
0 replies
1h26m

Right. I was looking for a press release or something. Did not see one.

djmips
0 replies
1h13m

Yeah, that's cold.

ephaeton
2 replies
11h26m

when we get the black line indicating mourning, it would be nice to have a link to the respective HN post detailing who's gone. I assume the public half mast referes to Mr. Walker, here...

skrebbel
1 replies
10h30m

The “X has died” post usually goes to the top pretty fast, making it rather obvious.

ephaeton
0 replies
6h31m

"usually", "pretty fast" includes "but sometimes not", "it takes some time". I've had enough occasions where I saw the black label but had no clue what was going on.

Sometimes the post title isn't obvious that a person has died either. "Remembering Paul Graham", e.g., isn't so obvious (maybe to non-native speakers); and there's various ways to word this, ranging from obvious to not.

If HN makes the effort of styling the site, it would be nice to include a link to the 'canonical' related thread, IMO.

bobim
2 replies
8h21m

Wild to discover he’s been living in my area while I’ve been using autocad and inventor all this time. There’s even a picture of the brass band my neighbour is playing in… Life is strange.

https://www.fourmilab.ch/images/album/2014-03-14/concert_b_2...

guerrilla
1 replies
7h48m

I was looking for a comment like this to verify it was him. I met him in the early 2000's when we were travelling to Les Trophées du Libre (a free software contest and awards event). I think we were both judges. We sat next to each other on the bus and he was explaining how he had moved to Switzerland and renounced his US citizenship and how I should do so too since I moved to Sweden. I remember being confused because he seemed way to humble and down to Earth to be the founder of Autodesk.

bobim
0 replies
4h36m

From the pictures it seems he was living in Lignères, a small village in the Jura "mountains". For sure you have to be humble to live here when you could afford to live in Gstaad. It says all about the man and his priorities in life.

1-6
2 replies
13h59m

AutoCAD is a transformative product and one that really helped me appreciate good software design (albeit only seeing it through AutoCAD’s commandline and AutoLISP). Autodesk has lost a legend and his legacy will live on.

Animats
1 replies
11h53m

AutoCAD is a transformative product

It really was. It replaced manual drafting. Drawing revision before AutoCAD involved maintaining a master drawing and updating it manually with pencils and erasers. Final drawings were inked in. Copies were made by running master drawings through a blueprint machine. When there were too many revisions, someone had to redraw the drawing by hand, and the copy had to be checked by hand by a checker.

There were CAD systems before AutoCAD, but they either required a more expensive computer than an PC, or they couldn't handle a drawing too big for memory. The big innovation in AutoCAD is that it had a paging system for working on drawings too big for the machine. The code was paged in and out in segments. The drawing was paged in and out in sections.

(I did some of the early AutoCAD ports to non-IBM PCs. Compatibility hadn't been established yet. Everything needed a driver. AutoCAD had "more drivers than Yellow Cab" at one point.)

deltarholamda
0 replies
3h15m

On balance, CAD has improved the industry for sure. But, because I'm old enough to yell at clouds, I would like to point out the flip side.

In manual drafting days, changes were hard, as you note. But because of that, there was a LOT more pre-planning, because once you start putting the Koh-I-Noor to mylar, changes were difficult. So you avoided them whenever possible. Architects had to sit down with owners and say, "look, past this point, you don't get to make changes, at least not for free."

Now, buildings are quite often designed-by-addenda. The due date is just a date. You get extra time to actually "finish" the job by issuing massive addendums prior to bid. And because of that, architects don't make owners sit down and tell them everything, so you'll get A/V or finishes or whatever really, really late in the design phase. "No problem, we'll fix it by addendum."

I am also a bit sad that drafting skills have died out somewhat. I've seen some really, really beautiful bluelines. I've heard of electrical engineers who would make smiley-faces with their homerun arrows. And the process of manual lettering is very zen, and teaches people spatial awareness like nothing else.

All that said, man alive, I love AutoCAD. Embedding Lisp in the program was amazing. The modern thing is now Revit, which has some good things going for it as well, but it is not (and may never be) anywhere near ACAD for a lot of work. RIP John.

toomuchtodo
1 replies
14h54m
eggspurt
0 replies
4h24m

We need to put some work into this...

specialist
1 replies
4h59m

Darn.

I never had direct contact with John Walker. Outside of family and friends, the Autodesk founders probably had the biggest impact on my life.

In 11th grade, I submitted a grant application on behalf of my school. I wanted to draw molecules. My teacher (for our voc tech program) gave me the blank paperwork and said "go for it".

Some time later, two NEC APC III showed up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APC_series#APC_III Running AutoCAD. On 8" floppy media. The manuals were in 3-ring binders. Hot damn, I loved those computers. So much better than the more common IBM PC-XT. I'd take portions of the manuals home over night to study.

One of the upgrades featured AutoLISP. Version 2.17b? That really lit my fire. Like LOGO turtle on steroids or something.

I eventually published some shareware using AutoCAD/AutoLISP. Pretty good money for a kid.

AutoCAD, AutoShade, AutoSOLID, AutoFlix (Animator), HP plotters (using drafting pens and inks), transition from sneaker-net to LANs... Truly mind blowing stuff. Democratizing all that high-end workstation stuff (eg Apollo) for us normies.

Autodesk begat an entire ecosystem from scratch. Dealer channels, third party add-ons and utilities, conferences, magazines, curriculum, consultants, custom graphics cards (and drivers), huge CRTs, crazy variety of input hardware (pen tablets and chorded keyboards), etc, etc.

Helluva an achievement.

Thanks John Walker. RIP.

Animats
0 replies
4h46m

Autodesk begat an entire ecosystem from scratch. Dealer channels, third party add-ons and utilities, conferences, magazines, curriculum, consultants, custom graphics cards (and drivers), huge CRTS, crazy variety of input hardware (pen tablets and chorded keyboards), etc, etc.

Yes. When AutoCAD came out, personal computers were expensive, exotic, fragile devices. Especially when they needed a big graphics-capable CRT, a mouse, a pen input tablet, and a large pen plotter. Dealers had to be set up to sell and service all that gear. An architect whose update device had previously been a powered eraser and a blueprint machine needed some handholding to computerize with confidence. Customers needed someone local they could call when it broke. Much of early Autodesk involved setting up that infrastructure.

mwcampbell
1 replies
15h15m

Long before I had heard of Autodesk, I came across John Walker's site in the late 90s because he was the author of Speak Freely, an early Internet voice chat program.

eelstretching
0 replies
2h30m

Speak Freely was the best, and saved me literally thousands of dollars when I was a post-doc in Australia and my fiancee was still in Canada. I once used it to help with an interview of wearable computing pioneer Steve Mann and an Australian journalist and had to fix an endianess issue to do it.

meekaaku
1 replies
8h15m

I first came to know about Autodesk, when I got to try AutoCAD on DOS in mid 90s. It was snappy and fast even on the hardware of that era. Pentium had just come out. Later on, did some modeling and animation on 3d Studio on DOS.

This was well before Autodesk started buying up all the competition.

joelegner
0 replies
8h6m

I started on version 10 on DOS around 1991 or 1992. I think version 12 was the last one on DOS, and it was so snappy! Never been the same since.

jabowery
1 replies
3h26m

Xanadu, folks. It's quite a tragedy that Wired Magazine's article failed to uncover the real reason Xanadu failed to become the WWW (hence why Smalltalk didn't become the scripting language rather than Javascript, etc.).

https://www.wired.com/1995/06/xanadu/

djmips
0 replies
1h22m

What's the real reason Xanadu failed to become the WWW?

havaloc
1 replies
14h18m

I emailed him once ( without knowing who he was ) about an issue with his JavaScrypt tool. Super down to earth. His website is so unpretentious I didn't realize he was the founder of Autodesk.

ResNet
0 replies
11h44m

I think this is the JS tool mentioned: https://bigarrow.tripod.com/js-encr/j4jscrypt.html

His main website is really fantastic, well worth a visit: https://www.fourmilab.ch/

forgingahead
1 replies
11h46m

Fascinating article on his website (there are many!) about a WSJ reporter playing a fool during an interview with him:

https://www.fourmilab.ch/autofile/e5/?chapter=chapter2_99

Fake news always gonna fake, eh?

fragmede
0 replies
11h35m

Multimedia being, as of this writing, insufficiently advanced to permit me to embed two hours of video in this book.

1992!

fghorow
1 replies
3h21m

My all-time favorite website is his "Bending Spacetime in the Basement"[1].

RIP John Walker.

[1] https://www.fourmilab.ch/gravitation/foobar/

cdelsolar
0 replies
2h14m

This was amazing. Thanks for that.

cronix
1 replies
10h58m

I fell in love with 3D Studio in the 90's. It was so intuitive to use compared to Lightwave3D for someone who didn't know what they were doing, but very curious and wanting to learn. A big challenge was getting it to run in windows 3.1 when that was released, but it did. Ah, and having to create a RAM drive to put the video into so you could actually watch it in real time without buffering at 320x200 (i386 days).

rurban
0 replies
10h39m

But that had nothing todo with John. He already left before Autodesk bought 3D Studio.

agumonkey
1 replies
15h2m

RIP, Autodesk (the company) was such a big name in my early years

I never saw early autocad, here's demo https://yewtu.be/watch?v=Apb5ayyCHaE

1-6
0 replies
13h58m

It still is. Any serious CAD user knows that there’s nothing that comes quite close to AutoCAD after all these years (even with all the pork introduced by new developers).

Qem
1 replies
15h26m

RIP John Walker. His fourmilab site is a surviving relic of the old web. Full of interesting stuff.

prenoob
0 replies
11h22m

Used to run his very code to do in-browser js encryption.. RIP

zmb_
0 replies
10h12m

HotBits is my earliest memory from the Internet after getting access as a young kid around 1996. Back in those days computer magazines would print website reviews and links, and I found HotBits in one of those. It was fascinating to a young kid who was into computers and physics.

Over a decade later I read the Autodesk File and it was a major inspiration for founding my first startup.

He was an inspiration to generations of hackers.

tohnjitor
0 replies
3h26m

Even after advent of modern parametric modelers like SolidWorks and Inventor, AutoCAD is still tremendously useful.

throwawayaloo
0 replies
2h56m

I was in highschool (IGCSE) in 1994 and for the final computer studies project whereas everyone else made excel calculators and "Hello world" equivalents, I nerded out and built a full fledged inventory management system for the local Toyota dealership. My dad found someone in his office who knew Dbase-4 and autocad and spent many weekends with him learning the basics and developing my project. It turned out better than expected and the invigilator from the GCSE board told my school that I had plagiarised the code, that there was no way a 15yo would put that much effort into it. Well, I had to write & rewrite the code several times because of storage/hard drive issues back then and recited some of the code back to the invigilator orally! My CS teacher was in complete shock, poor chap! I'll never forget the poorly drawn autocad designs for some of the computer parts in my inventory system. Thank you John Walker.

thenobsta
0 replies
1h21m

I've been a happy reader of fourmilab.ch for years. His book reviews, the hacker's diet, and his other tools are one of the treasures of the internet. Not to mention his creation of AutoCad (a tool I loved in high school and college, after his time but I'm grateful none the less). RIP, John.

shepardrtc
0 replies
14h42m

I remember discovering his website in the mid 90's and immediately falling in love with all the random stuff he had. I had an early laptop back then and took it to my high school astronomy club meetups loaded with his astronomy software. We were able to use it to help us point this giant clunky telescope and immediately I saw what the future would be like with portable computing.

shaunxcode
0 replies
2h10m

I was gently pushed towards the parenthetical path by a friends mother who worked as a autolisp programmer. So I have always had a fondness for the realm of Autodesk and thus John Walker.

rurban
0 replies
12h1m

He was my idol. And during my stint at Autodesk I've always cited his Autodesk files. Many didn't like that :)

rcb
0 replies
14h35m

Very sad news. In the mid 90s I used his ATLAST in a commercial product and reached out to him for some help. He was very gracious. R.I.P John Walker

pavlov
0 replies
7h36m

A 2008 interview with John Walker:

https://through-the-interface.typepad.com/through_the_interf...

He was ahead of the curve even on developments that were brand new in 2008 like social media:

“I'm interested in anti-social networking. I'm interested in protecting private data and one's own history in this environment of unprecedented disclosure.” (Part 4 of the interview)

paledot
0 replies
3h6m

Usually when there's an obituary on HN, I go straight to the comments to read all of the tech-is-a-village "I took his intro to computing course at MIT" or "I worked with her at Atari when we were 15 people in a basement apartment" anecdotes. It's interesting to see that John Walker's legacy here is instead defined by his work, his writing, and his correspondence.

(Not to diminish the value of those contributions, of course - that's an artifact of the life he presumably wanted to lead. And his legacy is perhaps the more durable for it.)

maxglute
0 replies
6h57m

I think I used autodesk software more than anything else except Windows, and it never dawned on me it was founded by a person with a vision. John Carmack and a lot of ID staff were known among gamers of the era, but I don't think I know any CAD person who knows John Walker, or graphic person who knows Knoll bros behind Photoshop. Made me look up Simonyi who designed Excel. Obscure people behind software that keeps the world turning.

kimi
0 replies
19m

The site fourmilab.ch has been an inspiration for me over the years - the Hacker's diet, retropsychokinesis, countless books, his pictures of a nuclear ice-breaker...

I remember 20 years ago or so sending an email for something and he replied, very kindly. I printed it and posted on the wall of my first office!

RIP "Kelvin".

karbak
0 replies
2h7m

"We'll Return, After This Message" is one of my all-time favorite short stories: https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/sftriple/gpic.html

jdougan
0 replies
15h49m

And this time, I have a public link to the announcement.

interfixus
0 replies
13h2m

Since I came across it in its very early days, for nearly three decades the fourmilab.ch site has been the one constant in my weblife. Treasure trove of projects and ideas and book suggestions. Eclectic is the word which pops up in my head right now and insists on being used.

Had a few email exchanges with the man himself. On randomness, on English grammar, on Swedish adventures in The Thirty Years' War, on certain politics (where we didn't necessarily see eye to eye but where there was plenty of room for civilised discussion). Unfailingly polite, informative, entertaining, and of course with cognitive ressources most of us can only dream of.

John Walker, thanks for all the effort and the inspiration. I shall miss your presence.

happytiger
0 replies
6h24m

Safe travels old friend. Thank you for all you did and who you were.

chasd00
0 replies
4h27m

One of my first “computer” jobs in college was working as an AutoCAD draftsman for a tiny architecture firm. My specialty? Designing parking lots for various Discount Tire stores haha.

Rest in peace

Edit: you can work AutoCAD crazy fast once you get all the keyboard shortcuts figured out

bhanu423
0 replies
3m

I am in tears, hearing these kind words.. I finally have a hero that I can look upto.

Khelavaster
0 replies
3h19m

Walker died walking :(

HeOwnsTwitter
0 replies
14h28m

One of my earlier professional programming projects was to build a set of custom tools for engineering in Autolisp. Rip Mr. Walker

DonHopkins
0 replies
7h17m

I really love and was deeply inspired by the great work that John Walker did with Rudy Rucker on cellular automata, starting with Autodesk's product CelLab, then James Gleick's CHAOS -- The Software, Rudy's Artificial Life Lab, John's Home Planet, then later the JavaScript version WebCA, and lots of extensive documentation and historical information on his web page.

CelLab:

https://www.fourmilab.ch/cellab/

https://www.fourmilab.ch/cellab/classic/

https://www.fourmilab.ch/homeplanet/

https://www.rudyrucker.com/oldhomepage/cellab.htm

CelLab History

(A more detailed history of cellular automata appears in the CelLab User Guide.) The first edition of CelLab was developed by Rudy Rucker and John Walker in 1988 and 1989 when both were working in the Autodesk research lab. The package was to be the first title in the "Autodesk Science Series", which would use computer simulation to explore aspects of science and mathematics. The product was first shipped in June of 1989 at a suggested retail price of US$59.95, under the name Rudy Rucker's Cellular Automata Laboratory. Rudy went on to complete the second title in the Science Series, James Gleick's CHAOS -- The Software which used programs developed by Rudy and another Autodesk programmer, Josh Gordon, to illustrate aspects of James Gleick's bestselling book. CHAOS -- The Software shipped in November of 1989. Rudy was working on the third title in the series, Artificial Life Lab, and John was developing the fourth, Home Planet, when Autodesk's management decided to close the research lab and terminate development of the Science Series. Rudy finished Artificial Life Lab, which was published as a book plus disk by The Waite Group Press in 1993. John released Home Planet as a freeware program in the same year, and the current version can be downloaded from this site.

The demise of the Science Series orphaned Cellular Automata Laboratory, which disappeared from the market in 1994. Rudy and John explored the idea of a new edition with several publishers, but none seemed to be interested. With the advent of the World-Wide Web, software can be distributed at a minuscule fraction of the cost of packaged software in the 1980's, so this seemed a natural way to get Cellular Automata Laboratory back into the hands of creative people interested in exploring massively parallel computing. Re-launching a program developed almost a decade ago required a modicum of work; a new cellular automata simulator that runs under Windows was developed, the User Guide, originally a 265 page book typeset using LaTeX, was transformed into an HTML document for the Web, and Java was added to the languages one can use to define cellular automata rules, being ever so much more with-it than Pascal, BASIC, and C.

So now it's finished, or at least at large again. Ideally, CelLab will never be done, not as long as folks continue to use it to explore the world of cellular automata and share their discoveries with other pioneers on this frontier of computing.

Documentation:

https://www.fourmilab.ch/cellab/manual/

It includes a huge illustrated index and description of many different cellular automata rules:

https://www.fourmilab.ch/cellab/manual/rules.html

The story about the origins of CelLab is fascinating, telling about how Rudy Rucker learned FORTH just so he could program CA rules for Toffoli's and Margolus's CAM-6 hardware:

https://www.fourmilab.ch/cellab/manual/chap5.html

Original Windows product, released i 1989, Autodesk Cellab 1.0 - installed files:

https://vetusware.com/download/Autodesk%20CELLAB%201.0/?id=4...

Cellab, Exploring Cellular Automata from DOS era in DOSBox:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=RnZWJV1_wKI

Cellular Automata by Rudy Rucker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZUzakG3bE

Programming the CAM-6 Cellular Automata Machine Hardware in Forth (CAM6 Simulator demo):

https://www.reddit.com/r/Forth/comments/zm0ggl/programming_t...

DamonHD
0 replies
10h45m

Ah.

I interacted with him a little for HotBits, and provided my own public random number (entropy pool) source for a while.

1vuio0pswjnm7
0 replies
13h45m

Great website. Really enjoyed his writings. RIP.

082349872349872
0 replies
12h46m

I cold called him one day and despite my having been a rando he took the time to help me out.

His relaxed view on learning foreign languages (along the lines of "as long as you avoid having tonnes of manure dumped in your front yard, you're doing OK") was also very helpful!