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Google search drops cache link from search results

angry_octet
43 replies
16h31m

The cache: qualifier does still work for me, but I fear it too is deprecated. Another incredible Google blunder.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp...

I_am_uncreative
21 replies
13h5m

Have we come to expect anything less from Google? Ugh.

archerx
20 replies
12h9m

I don’t even know what the point of using google search anymore is...

whamlastxmas
19 replies
11h10m

Appending site:Reddit.com to everything bc Reddit search sucks

Y_Y
8 replies
9h49m

Reddit search sucking is a feature - it's trying to protect you from the Reddit content, that's what really sucks. There was a brief moment it had some good advice on products and services, until SEO jerks got wind of it and astroturfed over the whole thing.

A_D_E_P_T
7 replies
8h41m

Yeah, Reddit is the most astroturfed place on the internet. There's a thriving market in "high karma" accounts that are bought and sold by PR firms, SEO companies, and guerilla marketers -- and a huge fraction, if not an outright majority, of product-related posts are engineered from such sources with undisclosed interests. These days, it's one of the cheapest, and one of the "best," ways to advertise.

I don't think that Reddit was ever good. (The upvote/downvote system stifles real discussion, and even normal people treat it like a game -- exaggerating and making up stories for upvotes.) But today it's unambiguously terrible.

dns_snek
4 replies
7h22m

Finding genuine product reviews is borderline impossible these days. Search results are usually just worthless affiliate link spam, even from supposed "reputable" outlets. Are there any other places on the internet that try to solve this problem in a way that can't be easily gamed by marketers?

medstrom
2 replies
6h40m

At risk of throwing the baby out with the bathwater, think back to how you would've browsed the internet before Google. You probably would've grown your own web-directory of bookmarks, right? That's also how you explore the non-SEO-paved parts of the internet now.

I haven't learned to find product reviews yet, but I imagine that a trick would be to know which forums to go for certain kinds of products, e.g. maybe https://xdaforums.com/ for Android devices.

There is also the search engine https://boardreader.com/ which ONLY searches proper forums--sometimes you find neat threads, sometimes not.

wyclif
0 replies
5h5m

I used AltaVista.

dns_snek
0 replies
6h18m

Forums are a good one, but they're surprisingly hard to find these days. It really feels like we're back to word of mouth again.

This boardreader search engine sounds promising though! I'll give that a try next time I'm shopping in an unfamiliar market.

dclowd9901
0 replies
2h30m

Forums, surprisingly, are still quite good resources for product recommendations. I suspect it's because forums tend to be _slightly_ nerdier and more focused than more mainstream resources like Reddit. I do a lot of car restoration, and forums are goldmines of product recommendations and information.

smolder
1 replies
2h40m

I thought it was pretty good / relatively unexploited before diggs collapse, but I surely have rose colored nostalgia glasses.

A_D_E_P_T
0 replies
2h12m

Didn't Digg collapse in 2012 or 2011? The internet was a different place back then. Forums, in general, have gone downhill since then, mostly on account of low-effort phoneposters. (A trend heavily promoted by Reddit.)

sph
4 replies
9h37m

Yeah but they enshittified Reddit too, so many links are to "unreviewed" subreddits that force you to login.

If it was not for Kagi putting some sanity back into search, Google and Reddit going to shit would have had me seriously reconsider this career and spending so much time online.

I think it is abhorrent borderline criminal to place yourself at the centre of the Internet experience, and one day decide to make it shittier for everybody because of short sighted lust for money and inept PMs.

zeroalpha
2 replies
6h37m

Yeah exactly. Using reddit as a qualifier works only until everyone starts doing it. Thankfully for now we have old.reddit.com, until they deprecate that with some bullshit excuse in PR-english (who knows what will happen after the IPO). Then there's teddit, libreddit, etc., but they only work as long as reddit doesn't make a change. Feels like everything is a cat and mouse game these days.

sph
0 replies
5h49m

teddit/libreddit are basically as good as dead after the API changes last summer. It's all gone to the dogs.

slimsag
0 replies
3h11m

Most people in tech aren't even using old.reddit.com

Ever notice people posting completely broken markdown? That's because they use new reddit, which disagrees about markdown newlines. I would guess >70% of programmers/tech people are using new reddit.

93po
0 replies
2h7m

I use old reddit with an extension that forces it and don't even know what unreviewed subreddits are.

FabHK
1 replies
3h42m

Appending site:Reddit.com

Or, with DDG, append !r

crznp
0 replies
2h9m

DDG supports both, but they do different things. 'site:google.com' is a DDG search that returns Google results, '!g' is a google search that returns any results.

Similarly, !r uses reddit's search

worksonmine
0 replies
4h58m

You don't need google for that, Works with duckduckgo aswell.

lupusreal
0 replies
6h26m

I more often want the opposite, because reddit sucks for answering the sort of questions I usually search for.

12345hn6789
0 replies
2h56m

I personally am seeing issues with this too. Any time I search for something niche, and hence want some real world feedback, adding reddit to the search returns bot postings. Half the time you'll read comments that are fake reviews and the equivalent of Amazon bot reviews, in reddit comment form.

I long for the internrt of old. Everything is enshittified

rafark
17 replies
12h26m

I have a feeling this has to do with AI and all the lawsuits regarding content and copyright, storing and displaying the contents of a third party website to the end user might not be the best idea right now (I know the way back machine exists but they’re not a for profit company like google).

ravenstine
9 replies
4h45m

I can picture future HN conversations now.

"It's a good thing copyright law exists to prevent AI from doing anything useful because I'm fearful of AI."

"Hey, does anyone know why the web has become so boring and useless???"

Who knows – maybe Google Search won't even show page descriptions in the coming years.

zackmorris
7 replies
4h5m

"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else." -Winston Churchill

A paradox of politics is that the desire to not talk about politics favors the status quo, necessitating the need to talk about politics.

It's obvious to me that AI is being rolled out in just exactly the wrong way at multiple levels, creating misaligned incentives and a perversion of original goals. But the knee-jerk reactions to it that drive the creation of draconian policies were predicted almost a century ago.

It seems that everything we hold sacred is under attack in these times. The smart bet seems to be on ensh@ttification. Because the organizations that were formerly stewards of online freedom have abdicated their responsibility.

I find it helpful to remember that every misstep by established players creates an opportunity for newcomers to compete.

MSFT_Edging
6 replies
3h36m

This is an important comment.

Instead of "AI"(be real, llms and stable diffusion) being developed openly and studied without a profit motive, it's been thrust into the cheap world of VCs looking to extract any profit whatsoever from it, nearly immediately.

This has caused these "AI" tools to be used to steal and rehash artists work(cheapening artists because tech bros and MBAs resent art and the time it takes to perfect). Cheapening human labor(why pay a person to understand anything when you can have an llm do 20% of the job and worse).

These AI tools were thrown in the deep end with a singular purpose: Cheapen what was thought to be protected from computers, while not providing any real value to the layperson.

The average person can maybe get a funny joke, a bad few lines of code, or an ugly bespoke AI image for their medium article, but the true winners are the ones cutting jobs en masse before the tech has even matured, so both the employee and the customer gets a worse product while the MBA's show a solid quarterly report after they ran a knife across their workforce's neck.

Those with power and money have continued to show they will not use technology for any positive societal purpose until they are forced to with regulation. So we're forced to neuter the technology before it can really develop. It's like one child playing violently with a toy, forcing the teacher to take the toy away from everyone else.

stateofinquiry
3 replies
2h46m

There should be no surprise that "those with power and money" will not willingly apply "technology" for social good. It should be expected, rather. Your comment brings to mind Edward R. Murrow's speech in 1958 about the direction of television (certainly would be "high tech" back then!) He and others envisioned education, information, and enlightenment from this technology. Well, you know what we got instead. Here is a summary of the speech, and you can hear the whole thing on youtube if you like- still absolutely relevant.

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2014/today-in-medi... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIhy0T7Q48Y

We can see the same thing with other newer media; Ex. video games. I don't have solutions per se, though I wish this pattern could be different. The profit motive and appealing to base instinct seems to always "win".

MSFT_Edging
2 replies
2h31m

I'm aware it should be expected.

The target of my comment is specifically the "well profit=good" crowd on here.

It's to point out the innate contradiction in how we speak about technology compared to the guaranteed outcome in our system.

We're doomed as a species if we keep believing in the magical market as a primary mover for said species. We'll stall in a circlejerk of ads and stock buybacks and never accomplish anything, because any good use for technology is locked behind a gate due to the lack of profit.

Any improvement in medicine is behind lock and key because the pharmaceutical companies "need to make back their investment" despite massive gov funding.

We're killing ourselves here with the spectacle that this system is either working or worth saving.

stateofinquiry
1 replies
1h3m

True points, and I apologize for missing you actual point and wandering off a bit. We probably need another social model for technological development specifically- but I am not sure what it might be. If there is anything useful to salvage from my previous its that this issue has been with us for a long while.

MSFT_Edging
0 replies
11m

I think amazing gains could be made if we ripped the bandaid off and took all the weapons manufacturers and other gov contractors and used that brain power entirely for darpa style public works projects.

Our current military industrial project is just a self fulfilling fantasy. Stop the contracts for war, create contracts and research for moving humanity forward without the need to strap it to a missile 20 years before it hits shelves. Keep IP rights publicly owned, license them to anyone and use the licensing fees to fund new research.

Aloisius
1 replies
58m

One could make a similar argument about every other major technological advance in history.

I’m not sure why people seem to believe AI is different or special or what leads them to believe you can stop it anymore than the automated loom or the combine harvester.

MSFT_Edging
0 replies
45m

Given the invention of the cotton gin, the slave owners should have been clubbed to death and the technology not used to make slavery more enticing but to improve productivity to reduce level of effort and provide more free time.

This can be translated to modern day.

EGreg
0 replies
1h52m

Boring and useless? More like A DARK FOREST with disinformation and gaslighting everywhere, and fake “participants” in your forums. Oh, hi human :)

yreg
2 replies
7h7m

I won't be surprised if Archive.org ends up getting screwed at the end of this fight.

brianshaler
0 replies
1h29m

They already are, with content platforms clamping down on public access, with more and more content locked away behind exorbitantly expensive APIs (mostly thinking reddit and twitter here)

EGreg
0 replies
1h52m

We need a new web!

MaidSAFE

Freenet

Hypercore

Wowfunhappy
1 replies
3h6m

Wouldn't this work in Google's favor?

"AI is doing a thing which we have already been doing for most of the internet's existence; this thing is central to the internet as we know it works today."

Versus

"AI is doing a thing that we stopped doing proactively because we thought it might be illegal, which also means it's clearly not that important to the web, please let us keep doing it for AI training."

MOARDONGZPLZ
0 replies
3h1m

“So as you can see esteemed jury, we’re not just copyright infringing _now_, we’ve been doing it for years! So you must acquit!”

whamlastxmas
0 replies
11h12m

Probably more to do with google hating maintaining stuff and they probably lose money showing you stale websites with stale ads instead of a live one with live ads

cebert
0 replies
7h0m

It could also be security related. I know occasionally companies accidentally make things public they didn’t intend to be public due to misconfiguration. Once this happens, those pages are available in the Google cache even when they’re no longer accessible. You can request the cached results be removed, but this takes time.

user_7832
0 replies
2h29m

Could you explain how you generated this link? Whenever I try the old cache:<url> address I always get a 404. Thanks!

bvvg
0 replies
15h55m
Noumenon72
0 replies
13h30m

That's really too bad. I have a keyword for that search, because I have blocked this site at work in my hosts file so I can't browse, and only look at specific links via the cache.

kristopolous
11 replies
13h5m

The Google of 20 years ago was a vastly superior product

huppeldepup
3 replies
7h4m

I still miss google code search. Someone know an alternative?

aeyes
2 replies
3h55m

github search, the downside being that you need to have an account

vander_elst
0 replies
1h18m

Not sure of it's only me but GitHub search is absolutely unusable, it does not find a variable name in the file I have open in the other pane and I can see it exists.

gtirloni
0 replies
2h33m
geuis
3 replies
10h9m

I remember when Chrome first launched. It was such a beautiful product. The first major competitor to IE in years. Now, it's become the king it killed.

dev1ycan
1 replies
3h4m

Chrome was beyond TERRIBLE compared to Firefox. Firefox: 1)Right click image 2)Save as

Chrome: 1)Right click image 2)Can't save as because Google decided so, just like Apple's mentality.

Imagine actually utilizing a browser where the maker decides you should not have access to basic features.

zamadatix
0 replies
2h31m

I just tried this on Chrome from 2010 + current Chrome and both had "save image" when right clicking an image?

soraminazuki
0 replies
4h39m

The first major competitor to IE in years.

You mean Firefox was.

SirMaster
1 replies
2h57m

Was perhaps the web easier to index 20 years ago though too?

chankstein38
0 replies
2h47m

I'd guess their point was, before they continuously removed features that were useful and optimized for ad revenue.

finaard
0 replies
10h40m

In the late 90s I switched from metager to google as it was just significantly better at locating what you was searching for. I'm now back with metager as it nowadays is significantly better at locating what I'm searching for.

Bnichs
9 replies
15h27m

I'm excited for the day when Google finally bites the bullet and makes their biggest UI "upgrade" to date, removing the search bar and keeping pesky user input from interfering with targeted ad revenue.

jdewerd
3 replies
15h20m

The other day I did an AI related search and had zero organic results above the fold. It has begun.

grow2grow
2 replies
14h28m

I'm probably in the university library most weekends scanning books into my fine-tuned LLM. Y'all can enjoy the trash, I've had enough.

zeroalpha
0 replies
6h35m

If you're not saying it sarcastically, that's an awesome project.

Kerbonut
0 replies
13h38m

What does that mean? Are you creating your own LLM, finetuned off the books from your library or something else? Hard to pick up on what you’re saying.

grumple
1 replies
14h5m

The New Google Search: Just browse our page of endless ads until you find the result you're looking for!

palmfacehn
0 replies
12h45m

"Hear me out. Let's remove all of the relevant results so they keep browsing and viewing ads forever!"

GartzenDeHaes
1 replies
14h2m

removing the search bar and keeping pesky user input from interfering with targeted ad revenue.

But how will they know what you are shopping for?

jacquesm
0 replies
13h5m

The Chrome intent integration engine coupled with recent 'Bard' conversations as well as whatever Google 'Home and Meet' hardware has overheard you saying removes the need for any user interaction. All that's left is to tell you what to buy and where.

fluidcruft
0 replies
14h50m

They're replacing sales with some AI contraption, so it makes perfect sense for them to replace their users with AI, too.

pcthrowaway
8 replies
16h54m

Wow. A large chunk of the web just died. As if the echoes of millions of past websites cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened

freediver
2 replies
16h24m

There is still archive.org

SllX
1 replies
14h12m

Archive.org is great but its always better to have more options. This is another nail in the Google that was cool.

vitorgrs
0 replies
13h40m

Bing Cache still exists btw. But it's indeed sad google is killing it...

throwup238
1 replies
14h27m

You can also use the bang !wayback and create a custom one for archive.ph ("https://archive.ph/submit/?url=%s") and I have one for LibGen/Scihub too.

dredmorbius
0 replies
10h31m

Keep in mind that although the Wayback Machine (Archive.org / Internet Archive) will accept archival requests through a simple URL submission[1], Archive.Today does not and AFAIU requires at least some manual interaction to complete an archive request. Archive.Today also rate-limits submissions and will through up CAPTCHA tests if you're exceeding rates (though so long as you're retaining cookies, though seem to stay good for a while).

I've archived 100s to low 1,000s of my own personal contributions on a few online services to both sites.

For Archive Today, it is possible to expedite the archival process by generating the initial submission URL, though you'll have to complete another two steps after that point manually as I recall. If you're archiving a large set of sites, you can compile a list, generate a Web page off of that, and work through it at a pretty good clip.

________________________________

Notes:

1. The URL format being

  https://web.archive.org/save/<URL-to-save>
You can submit that via a script using any HTTP request generator, e.g., curl, wget, w3m, lynx, etc.

wslh
0 replies
15h54m

The [indexed] web died before that because Google is already "forgetting" things in the indexer that were always there. I bet that Google/Alphabet already knows that these are the last shots. I don't think it is a coincidence that the first rows of search results are full of ads and it is very difficult to detect the first organic result.

superhumanuser
0 replies
15h48m

One of the things I've come to really enjoy in Brave is its "Show Wayback Machine prompt on 404 pages" feature. I know this is tangental to your point, but I felt it still worth noting.

runlevel1
0 replies
10h0m

I'm finding it harder and harder to search for things from recent history.

They killed reverse image search for Lens, which is borderline useless.

Image search no longer has its date range filter. You can still use the undocumented keyword, but who knows when they'll take that away.

Search results are increasingly irrelevant. Yesterday, I was searching for news articles about the late 00s capture of an Al Qaeda leader who was tracked down in an unusual way. Amongst the results were Visa's careers page. (As a side note, I then asked ChatGPT about the event and it hallucinated in all 3 of my attempts.)

elashri
7 replies
14h41m

Well Google is making more me convinced each day with my investment in kagi $10 subscription. Kagi native support for archive wayback is one of the most useful features for me.

jfoutz
3 replies
14h36m

Kagi is rad. I signed up about two months ago. yeah. I'm not comfortable using it at work, so I search on my personal phone. it works like google should (or did). It's hard to quantify. But yeah. Write your own engine (which isn't crazy) or pay someone to do it for you (my solution).

Yeah. it's worth a few bucks.

jpalomaki
2 replies
14h22m

I believe the reason why Kagi "feels right" for ex-Google users is that they are actually using Google to power the search [1]. They have other sources as well, but since it feels so natural after 25 years of daily Googling, I assume Google is quite important source for generic search.

[1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.htm...

jfoutz
0 replies
13h30m

this makes me want to roll my own. But it's such a huge undertaking (maybe?).

I didn't realize it was a rebalancing. But seriously, I have no regrets. if nothing else, the incentive alignment matches my values better.

bbarnett
0 replies
13h29m

"But most importantly, we are known for our unique results, coming from our web index (internal name - Teclis) and news index (internal name - TinyGem). Kagi's indexes provide unique results that help you discover non-commercial websites and "small web" discussions"

They say that what makes them usable, their results most topical, is their own index.

They also list Google as an ancillary, as well as many others.

But the "feel" is more from the UI, and the relevance of the results. Both of these ways Google completely fails on now.

nomilk
2 replies
13h44m

Can you explain the UX. Is it just one click to go to the latest wayback machine version of the site or something like that? (it was on my 'to do' list to either find or make an extension that does this, so kagi could be quite useful to me also)

N-Krause
1 replies
8h26m

There are three dots right next to the result, from that menu you can open the result on archive.org in another tab. [1]

But you probably can somehow move the link to a more prominent position as Kagi does support custom css that is served with your search results. [2]

1 https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/website-info-personalize...

2 https://help.kagi.com/kagi/features/custom-css.html#customiz...

nomilk
0 replies
7h32m

Sounds a straight-forward as hoped. Ty!

terrycody
3 replies
15h21m

Cache: directive is very useful for many circumstances, especially for information archiving purpose, what a shame Google even want to cancel it.

JoshTriplett
2 replies
13h50m

Any archival purposes should use the Internet Archive; Google's cache couldn't be counted on to remain present and unchanged, even before this.

(The Internet Archive can't be counted on to remain unchanged either, but at least the Internet Archive will either remain unchanged or disappear, never change. I wish archive.org didn't auto-nuke entire sites based on robots.txt, because when domains disappear the domain squatters often seem to use robots.txt files for some reason.)

dredmorbius
1 replies
10h36m

IA have increasingly ignored robots.txt since the mid-2010s, going on at least eight years now:

<https://blog.archive.org/2017/04/17/robots-txt-meant-for-sea...>

<https://blog.archive.org/2016/12/17/robots-txt-gov-mil-websi...>

JoshTriplett
0 replies
8h11m

That's excellent news, thank you!

roshin
3 replies
12h59m

I used to use it on some sites that would show different results to Google vs people. LinkedIn cache was disabled years ago, I guess it was just time until the rest would be. on a similar topic, does anyone know how to view LinkedIn without an account?

corgihamlet
1 replies
7h52m

You could always make a fake account for LinkedIn.

frfl
0 replies
5h29m

I tried this. Account was blocked fairly quickly. I think they pattern match on activity and block such accounts automatically

godelski
0 replies
12h16m

Do you have any examples? I'd actually find this helpful for probably the same reasons lol

rkagerer
3 replies
7h39m

Hey, if anyone from Google is here reading this, what gives?

Could you tell your decision makers to stop making such stupid, user-hostile decisions?

zeroalpha
2 replies
7h15m

Not from google but I can tell you a probable reason. I'd wager they did this purposefully, knowing that it's user-hostile. Google cache shows you what a page looks like to Google, and that often has things such as paywalls (edit - or login gates) disabled to improve indexability of the page. People could use this to get around paywalls, which is not great for profitability. Cached pages also don't show you the latest active ads.

Edit: also, easy access to non-paywalled content gives you a massive trove of training data for machine learning models. Even if these aren't the main reasons for this feature disappearing, they're pretty convenient side effects.

rkagerer
1 replies
6h58m

It saddens me when companies wilfully slap their users across the face. It's eventually self-harming, as each regression of their product's quality is an opportunity someone else will use to out-compete them (over the long term).

I remember being in an interview with a googler and they posed some contrived problem which, in restrosoect, I realized they intended I solve using URL re-writes (so all result clicks run through Google rather than direct to the desired site). This was before that was the norm. It was appalling - there's no way I would have entertained such an approach due to the way it breaks the user's expectations about how links work (not to mention degrading their privacy).

Today I can't copy a 'bare' news site link without extra steps or properly rely on the back button, and I wish I could find that guy and slap them across the head for making my Internet a shittier place. </rant>

zeroalpha
0 replies
6h43m

they intended I solve using URL re-writes (so all result clicks run through Google rather than direct to the desired site).

Interesting, well we know how that ended with google AMP. It's good that we have people that think like you. Sadly there's always someone else willing to just take the money and implement it. I'm grateful for the community and the hobbyists that build workarounds and alternatives (e.g. searxng), and I contribute where I can. I think that's the only real solution at the moment.

falsandtru
3 replies
15h30m

It looks like nothing more than a cost-cutting measure.

Cache is needed for machine translation of PDFs. This change has made it difficult to read PDFs written in other languages.

refulgentis
2 replies
14h34m

I don't buy it, still accessible from translate.google.com, the Translate button in Chrome, etc. etc.

Probably just a ham-fisted 'change for the sake of change thing'. """Reimagining""" search can often get boiled down to the least common agreeable set of things across 3000 people. This is "simplification"

falsandtru
1 replies
14h27m

Those don't work on PDFs.

refulgentis
0 replies
4h43m

Yes they do. Check again.

PedroBatista
3 replies
14h42m

More the a few times, cached links were what saved me because the target site/page was long gone or down.

I guess this feature was too useful for their users..

jacquesm
2 replies
13h10m

web.archive.org.

gtirloni
1 replies
2h35m

I'm surprised I had to scroll down this far to see the obvious.

If you need cached versions of websites, just use the InternetArchive and make sure to donate.

PedroBatista
0 replies
1h58m

It also should be obvious that only a small portion of all pages of the Internet are in InternetArchive.

ibatindev
2 replies
15h49m

Google's Cache is a wonderful way to circumvent many paywalls. I have a bookmark that I use as a button to redirect the current URL to it's cached version.

You can try it out, just add a new bookmark and paste this:

"javascript:var url = new URL(location.href); location.href = 'https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:%27 + url;"

whamlastxmas
0 replies
11h9m

I circumvent paywalls with my back button and blocking the domain

qingcharles
0 replies
12h59m

Can confirm this works great, thank you :)

iamjackg
2 replies
16h54m

I've had to use Google's cache maybe twice in the last year: the first time I was very surprised that they had hidden it one or two clicks deeper than it used to be; the second time was earlier today, and this time I couldn't find the button anywhere. I guess this confirms it's gone for real!

bbarnett
1 replies
13h36m

Heh.

First: "We should move the cache link one menu click deeper, we don't have room here"

(No one can easily find it now)

Later: "Wow, no one uses cache, guess we should remove the link!"

godelski
0 replies
12h10m

“But the plans were on display…”

“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”

“That’s the display department.”

“With a flashlight.”

“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”

“So had the stairs.”

“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”

“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.'”

― Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

hypeatei
2 replies
3h20m

Another thing that they removed was the built-in "car loan calculator"

It's odd because they still have the mortgage calculator. I can only imagine it was some weird agreement between Google and car companies to remove it.

bastawhiz
1 replies
3h17m

I'd bet that it was unmaintained and underutilized, and someone filed a bug, and it was easier to justify removing than to fix it.

hypeatei
0 replies
3h14m

It was very simple and I know many people who used it. The only thread I could find on it was this: https://support.google.com/websearch/thread/156391283/auto-l...

Can't imagine that takes much maintenance.

duringmath
2 replies
16h19m

I don't know why they're keeping the "so and so result in 0.XY seconds" line.

jacquesm
0 replies
13h7m

To make you squeal in agony knowing that they probably have the result to your query but there is no way to reach it due to the first 10 pages being junk.

Vecr
0 replies
15h2m

It's literally impossible to look at more than a few pages (10 maybe? that's optimistic at this point) of those results, if they even do exist.

Alifatisk
2 replies
6h11m

Bummer to see Google actually killing a good feature.

Please take me back to Google 10 years ago when they actually had working products instead of experimenting with Ai.

superasn
1 replies
4h42m

Yes instead of making improvements to their product like removing spam sites like Pinterest, etc - they are actually killing the good features which gives Google edge over chatgpt. Not sure what the gameplan is here.

hedora
0 replies
3h31m

Right now, the focus seems to be on margin expansion.

Give them a few years at this rate, and they'll move to financialization.

A decade after that, they'll divest most of their assets and switch to providing services, like IBM, except they'll probably try doing it without adding a service team, which should make for some fun satire from The Register.

pwb25
1 replies
2h18m

Google sucks so hard now, literally anything they do is getting worse. No idea why anyone wanna work there or why they think they are cool paying 100 of k to incompetent people

joaogui1
0 replies
1h51m

Most of the people getting 100k are not the people making the dumb decisions. Besides, lots of cool research is still happening inside Google

gexla
1 replies
9h57m

Maybe it just wasn't used enough to justify its placement in the UI. I always used the URL cache: prefix. The few times I tried through the UI, I couldn't find it. I'm fine with the prefix, just continue supporting it. Though these days, I use other cache services more than I use Google cache.

hammyhavoc
0 replies
9h44m
geuis
1 replies
10h12m

This is a terrible shame.

I wrote a browser extension back in 2005 or so called Commoncache to help the user view a page when slashdot hugged a site to death. It used a fallback mechanic where it would try Google cache, then the wayback machine, and finally coralcache.

It was minorly popular and even included on a cd in an issue of MacWorld magazine.

I have absolutely no idea what's happening with Google's project managers these days, or whoever in the company is making product decisions. Thousands of highly intelligent and highly paid staff just keep making their core product and associated features increasingly user hostile.

YouTube search is an absolute travesty. Google search just floods the first page with various cards that take up previously useful space and doesn't add value to the simple need to find answers to questions.

I firmly believe that only relying on A/B testing for feature launches reached peak usefulness years ago. It's like everyone forgot to see if new features are a benefit to users at a human level simply because 51% of people click more on B, while A is the better experience for everyone.

xtracto
0 replies
3h27m

Darn, I've completely forgot about coral cache. From the /. times. I remember it being slow but super useful.

chankstein38
1 replies
2h50m

No :( Now what will I do when a website is down or broken or just randomly not working? Why does google kill every good feature? What a terrible company...

ndesaulniers
0 replies
2h36m
bvvg
1 replies
16h38m

Thankfully, if a page is cached you can still use the 'cache:' command to retrieve the cached version - e.g., cache:https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

forgot-im-old
0 replies
2h3m

Yes that works for me in Chrome / Android.

LispSporks22
1 replies
14h29m

Matter of time before “powered by Bing” appears at the bottom.

rainbowzootsuit
0 replies
3h52m

Sammy Kamkar's "Just Bing it!" joke will recurse on that day.

ChrisArchitect
1 replies
14h50m

Noticed this months ago. But what is the purpose of removing it?

Has been a slightly useful thing especially for older links to see even barebones text-only for what might have been on a site without having to go to IA Wayback Machine etc.

rtsil
0 replies
13h25m

But what is the purpose of removing it?

The cache links had a near-zero click and that ruined the engagement metrics of a project manager?

tayloramurphy
0 replies
2h26m

Damn - noticed this the other day... what a frustrating shame this is.

silisili
0 replies
9h30m

Just noticed it missing recently , frustratingly enough. So many times I'd search for something very specific and get a hit on a comment on a page or forum, often with tens if not hundreds of pages. Using the cached link always worked.

maytc
0 replies
14h36m

Wild guess: Some PM got promoted for discovering that the Ads product could make more display revenue when people don't go to the cached page result.

labster
0 replies
12h12m

Not much longer until Search joins https://killedbygoogle.com/

happynacho
0 replies
14h44m

Noticed the other day, wasn't sure if it was specific domain or just me. Sucks still though

gumby
0 replies
14h53m

I was looking for this link in a recent search. So infuriating!

gumby
0 replies
14h51m

Google continues to innovate!

firecall
0 replies
12h17m

Argh!

It was so useful for when a client deleted or changed a page in their CMS and had no recovery position or backup!

And by Client I mean Me most of the time LOL

farmdve
0 replies
13h3m

So this is why I couldn't find it...bummer. Which means another downgrade.

eimrine
0 replies
13h12m

Maybe Google is getting us ready to a post-Search AI world? Why to use Search, you might find there something which is gonna make you political active. Use neural network instead, it will help you to obey.

deadbolt
0 replies
15h29m

At this point is seems like they're just trying to make search worse.

TrackerFF
0 replies
3h39m

The google enshittification continues, more news at 11.

Qem
0 replies
17h3m

If confirmed, what a shame. Cache was a great resource. But one thing that already bothered me it was it didn't work on mobile, at least for me. Only while using a desktop browser.

PeterStuer
0 replies
10h16m

Reminds me of the time I recovered the complete content of an SME's website from the Google cache. They had the site hosted by the company that was also their ISP, and had been paying that company for years for site backups, that turned out not to exist.